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Question has anyone heard of avitech

I am wondering if anyone has heard of avitech. My seed junky is not taking to the harrisons very well. I ordered some roudybush and am considering this avitech. The last vet visit she weighed in at 100 grams. I can get her to eat rice, bread and peas everything else is hopeless. And if you try to grind up the pellets and mix them into the bread she will not touch the bread (really picky right?).
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Have you tried feeding chop? You can mix it with seeds and then she can't avoid tasting the yummy goodies!

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Yes I use their probiotics and vit d supplement. Great stuff.

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In my opinion the bird should fly and exercise, she must build up muscles, because only muscles can burn fat.
If she doesn't like pellets, you could mix her tiel seeds 1:1 with budgie's reduction diet seeds and add vitamin, mineral and protein supplements.
When I got my linnies the first two weeks they wouldn't touch any of my fruits and veggies. Then I just mixed apple and carrot salad with their seeds, and they loved it. From this time on they have been eating fruits and veggies.

Have you ever tried to collect fresh herbs like chick weed or dandelion?
Some birds prefer greens to fruits and veggies.
If she doesn't reduce weight her liver might be damaged. That often happens to cockatiels. Chick weed and dandelion both help the liver.
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The thing is if I mix the seeds with anything she just picks out the seeds and leaves the rest. I would rather kick the seeds out of the diet completely because of the seed junkie tendency. I have been trying to get her on pellets for about 6 months now. About 4 months ago I moved to a rural town. The pet stores do not carry any pellets. It is either order through the vet or order online. Andthe company has to deliver to canada too.

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You can use pellets to make a batter for healthy bird crackers or bread. Just soak the pellets in 100% juice (such as carrot juice) with no sugar added, or unsweetened almond milk, until they absorb the liquid, then mix them up until you have a smooth batter. If you have a juicer, you can even make your own juice. Of course for bread, it might need additional ingredients like some whole grain flour, eggs and/or baking powder...you can also add spices...I'm no chef but trial and error should get you somewhere.

I don't recommend mixing seeds in with other foods, because seed junkies will usually pick them out (as you've noticed). Instead, withholding seed for the first few hours of the day and seeing if the bird will try new foods when they are really hungry. Have you tried very small pellets, like budgie or canary-sized ones? You can also try Nutriberries, which are vitamin-enriched seed balls. All of my birds will eat those crushed up.

For what it's worth, every one of my tiels has taken to Zupreem fruit blend pellets, even the former seed junkies. They still get seed, but always have the pellets available too and they all like them well enough. I know it isn't the healthiest pellet out there, but it's better than nothing and it has a high success rate with my flock.

To answer your question, though, Avitech is a good company. I have their powdered multi-vitamin and sometimes add it to my birds' mash/chop for a little nutrition boost. Even though I crush up kale and carrots and other veggies in the food processor and mix it with their grain mash, they still usually pick out the grains.

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Harrison's even makes bread mixes that have their crushed up pellets as a base. http://store.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/...ts.asp?dept=80

You can peas and other veggies in there for extra texture and variety.
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You can grind any pellets in the food processor and add it to bird bread. That is what I do.

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What I meant was, by mixing in a little seed with the chop then she can't avoid eating the healthy food around them. I'm talking a tiny, tiny amount of maybe just millet seeds. It's helped with my birds. The food I want my birds to eat (so their fresh food and chop) is fed in the morning when they're the most hungry. In the late afternoon they get their seed mixes

In my own personal opinion, I would not remove seeds all together from a seed eaters diet. The key to keeping birds healthy is to attempt to mimic the sort of diet they would have in the wild. My cockatiels have high quality seed mix as well as plenty of fresh foods. Whenever I have fed pellets to my tiels in the past, they've had Totally Organics. They're a lot softer than Harrison's and crumble easily

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Yeah, sometimes sprinkling a few seeds on top of chop or mixing it in can work. I just wouldn't recommend mixing seeds and pellets.
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Feed her gloop. All birds love gloop (I have switched hundreds of them to it and they all eat it with gusto) and it's healthier than pellets. I don't like chop because people normally use it as a substitute for fresh produce and, on it, the bird ends up eating the same produce every single day.
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Feed her gloop. All birds love gloop (I have switched hundreds of them to it and they all eat it with gusto) and it's healthier than pellets. I don't like chop because people normally use it as a substitute for fresh produce and, on it, the bird ends up eating the same produce every single day.
What is gloop?

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You can use pellets to make a batter for healthy bird crackers or bread. Just soak the pellets in 100% juice (such as carrot juice) with no sugar added, or unsweetened almond milk, until they absorb the liquid, then mix them up until you have a smooth batter. If you have a juicer, you can even make your own juice. Of course for bread, it might need additional ingredients like some whole grain flour, eggs and/or baking powder...you can also add spices...I'm no chef but trial and error should get you somewhere.

I don't recommend mixing seeds in with other foods, because seed junkies will usually pick them out (as you've noticed). Instead, withholding seed for the first few hours of the day and seeing if the bird will try new foods when they are really hungry. Have you tried very small pellets, like budgie or canary-sized ones? You can also try Nutriberries, which are vitamin-enriched seed balls. All of my birds will eat those crushed up.

For what it's worth, every one of my tiels has taken to Zupreem fruit blend pellets, even the former seed junkies. They still get seed, but always have the pellets available too and they all like them well enough. I know it isn't the healthiest pellet out there, but it's better than nothing and it has a high success rate with my flock.

To answer your question, though, Avitech is a good company. I have their powdered multi-vitamin and sometimes add it to my birds' mash/chop for a little nutrition boost. Even though I crush up kale and carrots and other veggies in the food processor and mix it with their grain mash, they still usually pick out the grains.
Once you make the batter, then what?? I want to try this with some extra pellets I have.

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You'll be baking it into bread or muffins. I make muffins for my red rumps, but I am lazy so I just use the Harrison's bread mix rather than grinding up pellets, etc. My birds like the millet and flax variety. I put the batter into muffin cups and bake for about 25 minutes at 350 degrees. I freeze some and refrigerate a bag of about 4 muffins. Each morning, I cut a muffin in half and warm it slightly in the microwave. I spread some of the Avix "releaves" (mixed with peanut butter) on top of pieces of the warm muffin because I have a red rump who has hormonal issues. Works great!


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I think I am just going to go back to hiding the veggies in the bread. I make real bread and not the bird bread stuff she does not eat the bread mixes but will eat real bread. Not to say that other fids wont. I think that the family that had her before fed her only the seeds and cooked grains so I will just be sneaky about feeding her healthy that is all. Good thing I have to be sneaky with the kids and veggies too. Lol

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Lafeber's Nutri-Berries is a good food with all the nutrition of pellets. Can be found in Pet'sMart. Read the package. I alternate to these every so often to give my linnies more variety. I usually give a variety of pellets very little seed but I live close to a bird shop. Mostly seeds make for fat birds and can shorten their life span. Fresh fruit and veggies chops in a side dish once a day most birds will go for after they check out the dish to see what's in it.

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As for Avitech haven't heard of them. There are avicakes which are good, and I've used at times.

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I have heard that the avicakes have molasses in them. For that reason I use them as treats dather then food. The nutriberries are a flop she doesnt want them. She has been eating the quick bread I baked for her last night. I replaced the whole wheat flour with ground up pellets. Yay. Only about half a cup of pellets in the bread but better then nothing. And I mushed up some frozen veggies in place of some of the water in the recipe.
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This is what she gets in a normal day. She will not touch the orange or green stuff and I haven't seen her eat the pellets either.
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