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Pellets & fortified seeds

So I ran across this article about pet owners making the mistake of over supplementation (below). It is great, you guys should read it. Anyway, it got me thinking, Oliver is eating about a tsp of pellets each day now- in addition to a tsp of seed and unlimited fresh. The seed mix is fortified. Most seem to be. He also has a mineral block. Do you think because he is eating so much pellets now, that the fortified seed could be too much vitamins? The article talks about hypervitaminosis and I don't want that to happen. I would love to hear your thoughts. I was thinking after I finish this bag (which might be months because it is new), I would get him a non-fortified mix if I can find one. Do you think I should do it sooner and waste this bag? Or do you think changing his seed is even necessary?

article: http://www.birdtricks.com/blog/3-big...t-bird-owners/

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I go with No Pellets and No adulterated seeds mix.
As for using them up first should be fine. It is long term that you may see problems from feeding pellets.
There are many things wrong with them as far as I am concerned.
There is only one or two that do not bulk up their pellets with ground corn and or soy that does nothing for your bird and this can be up to 80% of the pellet. Or 80% junk.
Liver and kidney problems are enhanced if not caused by high percentage pellets.
With some pellets it is said to not add some things like citrus or calcium. There maybe other things that you should not feed if feeding pellets.
And this is just a few things, there are many more to consider. And enough to put me right off any man made products.

Adulterated seeds: I do not know what these are treated with as I do not think we get a lot of these down her! At least I would not by them even if we did. Fresh natural untreated is by far the best way to go with all their foods as far as I feel.
Take into the consideration the same as with the pellets the supplements may not be natural, they maybe man made and not work the same way as natural ones do.
Overload can be just as dangerous as under supply.
It is hard to understand a balanced diet. But if you stay with a good variation and only add some things now and then I feel we can keep our birds happy and healthy.
Another thing is do you vary your birds diet to match changing seasons. I do try to vary diets over the seasons.

I have had a chance to go read some of the stuff on the link. I do not like Birdtricks as they have stolen most of their stuff from other people and are good at annoying you once they get hold of your details.
But a quick read seems to agree with a lot of what I have said above. I find that good.


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To be honest, I too think that pellets are the main cause of a lot of things like that. It is great that you vary their diets with fresh foods, but you can keep them very healthy on just their fresh foods and a nice clean seed mixture. As it says in the article, they hull those seeds anyway so it's just a waste of money. The only time I now add a form of supplement that isn't a cuttle bone and mineral block (available all year round at all times, they only nibble away if they know they need something) is when they're breeding. I do find that that helps a lot. I cut out the pellets when I had my indoor flock and fed them chop in the morning when they were the most hungry and probably a 3rd of a bowl would be full of seeds and nuts etc. in the late afternoon. They were very, very healthy with no need for the extra supplements

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Yeah my two girls don't really eat pellets no matter what. They will eat a few bites here and there but it may as well be nothing as I only give them about a tsp and rarely have to change it. I am starting to just be ok with that because they do eat the bird bread and that has pellets.

My goal has always been just to give them some of everything and have them eat some of everything. I guess because I read so many differing opinions and don't know what is true. Anyway, I have been successful with the girls on everything except pellets. I am fortunate that my birds really love to eat fresh food. I'll just keep Oliver's pellets and a measured amount so he eats seeds to. Hard to believe he was a seed junkie when I adopted him at two years, lol.

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It is amazing how far some birds come! I can understand why anybody would want to feed pellets, after all they're marketed to be a complete food (not that anything should ever be considered that!). I think that as long as they continue to eat their fresh food, which is soooooo hard especially in smaller birds so you should be very happy with that, and have a good safe seed mix then they will be a happy little flock

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It's always difficult to say how many supplements you should feed.
So I feed an unfortified seed mix and add supplements in consultation with our Avian vet.
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