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Need help simplifying my birds' diet

So I need advice on simplifying my birds' diet. I am buying way too much stuff that I have to mix together often. I was wondering if you guys can give me some advice on things that can be cut out?

Seed mix: I buy Dr. Harveys parakeet seed. I mix this in half with fresh parakeet seed for the budgies and small hookbill without sunflower for the parrotlets. I sprinkle Harrisons adult lifetime mash over this in case they dont eat pellets. The EBs eat zero pellets and the other birds eat very little. I also put avicalm on the parrotlets food since Gemma is so hormonal.

Pellets: Roudybush in a separate container that is barely touched. EBs dont eat it at all. I do put it in bird bread tho.

Nutriberries: I usually offer these during mealtimes outside the cage while we eat with the family. Everyone seems to like them now.

Sprouts: I offer sprouted seed for at least 2 solid weeks out of every month spread out with batches. I mix a sprout mix with legumes with a lady gouldian mix and sprout that.

Fresh food: bird bread offered a few times a week, veggie mashes daily (with greens included as well as other stuff) and now egg food has been incorporated.

Whole greens: I offer whole greens almost daily because that is the only thing the EBs will eat aside from seed. The parrotlets rarely eat whole greens and prefer chop, budgies are the opposite.

Supplements: calcium in water once or twice a week, acv in water once or twice a week, probiotics and vitamins sprinkled on sprouts once or twice a week. Liquid kelp for water once or twice a week (iodine specifically for budgies prevent tumor growth).

So help! It is a bit crazy making! Lol

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Do you freeze the veggie mash? If not, freeze in individual portions, add the Harrison's mash and don't sprinkle it on the seeds...probably a waste since the birds hull their seeds.

What's the difference between the mash and chop, just combine it and you can offer it twice if you want.

When did you get another budgie?!

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Do you freeze the veggie mash? If not, freeze in individual portions, add the Harrison's mash and don't sprinkle it on the seeds...probably a waste since the birds hull their seeds.

What's the difference between the mash and chop, just combine it and you can offer it twice if you want.

When did you get another budgie?!

I do freeze the veggie mash in daily portions. Sprinkling the mash probably isn't the right word choice. I put a layer of the mash over the top if the seeds...about .5-1tsp each time I change the seeds.

My dads pair of EBs at my house....they aren't really tame but pretty calm. I may claim them....pretty cool little birds.

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I'll try to make some suggestions:
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I also put avicalm on the parrotlets food since Gemma is so hormonal.
You could reduce the protein food, that will make her less hormonal.
Further too much protein isn't healthy for the kidneys.

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and now egg food has been incorporated.
Please feed that only once a week.

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Pellets: Roudybush in a separate container that is barely touched. EBs dont eat it at all. I do put it in bird bread tho.
If the birds absolutely don't like them just leave them out. Your bird diet is so rich and full of nutrition, they don't need them.
The pellets' vitamins won't work in bird bread, because heat damages them.

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Sprouts: I offer sprouted seed for at least 2 solid weeks out of every month spread out with batches. I mix a sprout mix with legumes with a lady gouldian mix and sprout that.
A high quality sprout mix twice a week is enough, sprouts are very rich of protein.

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Supplements: calcium in water once or twice a week, acv in water once or twice a week, probiotics and vitamins sprinkled on sprouts once or twice a week. Liquid kelp for water once or twice a week (iodine specifically for budgies prevent tumor growth).
I offer a cuttlebone, they use it when they need calcium, I wouldn't sprinkle it over the food.
And I think when you feed Harrison's lifetime mash you don't need further vitamin supplements. Please don't overdose vitamins.
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I'll try to make some suggestions:
You could reduce the protein food, that will make her less hormonal.
Further too much protein isn't healthy for the kidneys.

Please feed that only once a week.

If the birds absolutely don't like them just leave them out. Your bird diet is so rich and full of nutrition, they don't need them.
The pellets' vitamins won't work in bird bread, because heat damages them.

A high quality sprout mix twice a week is enough, sprouts are very rich of protein.

I offer a cuttlebone, they use it when they need calcium, I wouldn't sprinkle it over the food.
And I think when you feed Harrison's lifetime mash you don't need further vitamin supplements. Please don't overdose vitamins.

Thank you so much. Trying to do the best while still simplifying. I googled heat effects on vitamins based on your comment (I never thought of that!) and based on this, I think they are still stable?
http://www.beyondveg.com/tu-j-l/raw-...ooked-2e.shtml

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For clean seed, I like Volkman's. Our bird store carries it, or you can order it online. I would try to make pellets a bigger part of the diet than seed. Harrison's, Roudybush, Zupreem natural, and goldn'obles have all been eaten by my flock, past and present. I don't believe egg food is recommended anymore. I would also look at Feeding Feathers on yahoo, a mash diet supplemented with fresh fruits and veggies, pellets, seeds and nutrients and treats is the way to go if you can get them to eat it. But from what I understand, mash can't be just fresh ingredients thrown together. It has to be a balance of grains and legumes. If you join the group, the files there will help a lot.
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I feed a diet similar to what K describes above. Be very, very careful you don't OD your birds with all of the supplements. So long as you stick to a well rounded fresh diet you rarely need anything else

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