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Question Good seed brand?

Well, im talking with the owner and he sais that the conure is weaned on seeds.
no pellets..

i think this is the brand she is weaned on.

Pretty Bird Premium Food, Small Parrot and Conure



Pretty Bird Premium contains no fillers and uses more of everything your bird loves! It's formulated be a complete and balanced daily diet. Feed as-is or mix with fresh fruits and nuts for added variety. It's fortified with vitamins and minerals and contains appropriate amounts of protein, fatty acids, fiber and carbohydrates. Packed in a nitrogen-flushed bag to ensure freshness.
Ingredients: Sunflower Seed, Safflower Seed, Wheat, Corn, White Proso Millet, Canary Grass Seed, Flaked Corn, Pretty Bird Extruded morsels,( Corn, Oat Groats, Oats, Corn Gluten Meal, Fructose, Potato Protein, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, Choline Chloride, Natural and Artificial Flavors, DL Methionine, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Ferrous Sulfate, D-Biotin, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Oxide, Manganous Oxide, Niacinamide, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Mixed Tocopherols, Copper Sulfate, Citric Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Sodium Selenite, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Natural and Artificial Colors, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol Bisulfite (source of Vitamin K3), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Cobalt Sulfate, Rosemary Extract), Oat Groats, Green Oat Groats, Red Oat Groats, Green Split Peas, Almonds, Peppers and Pumpkin Seed.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min)............14%
Crude Fat/Oil (min)............12%
Crude Fiber (max)..............15%
Moisture (max)..................12%
Ash (max).........................3.5%
Size: 3 lb

website:http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2754179

im kinda nervous about this now.. some of those ingrediants look really odd to me.. and if the bird only eats seed it could be really over weight.

the last thing i want to do is buy the bird and then be faced with a big vet bill on top of that.

Help?? thank you.

ive emailed back asking if they feed them veggies and fruit often so im awaiting thier reply.

and the conures name is Icicis. anyone know how to pronounce this?? cause i sure dont!

i think it is I-SI-SIS
i have no idea.



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The ash content in that food is a bad sign. No animal should have a diet that contains high amounts of crude fat and ash. However, correcting a bird's diet is not impossible, sometimes it's even pretty easy. CC, for example, only got FINCH seed at the pet store -- as soon as I got her home I transferred her to Zupreem Fruit Sensations and then, when she kept throwing all the banana shaped food on the floor, I switched her to Zupreem Avian Entrees Garden Goodness, which she absolutely adores. I wouldn't give up on a bird because of the diet!

But yeah, ash is not a good thing
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No it isn't a good thing, but like Erin said, you can change a birds diet. Most of my birds get the suitable seeds for the species and where that species comes from with added fruit, vegetables and egg food every single day, especially the breeders.

Currently I'm feeding my conure on ... hold on let me copy and paste!
XtraVital Vitamin Enriched Parrot Food by beaphar.

It's like a better version of just seeds, and obviously he gets a lot of fruit and veg every day. It contains tons of really great stuff but I would at some point like to switch him over to pellets, but being as he was weaned onto your stereotypical parrot food (that I really don't like using! - too many sunflower seeds... it's all just junk food) I thought I'd put him on something far more similar and far more healthy than what he was on. I'm not saying the breeder is bad or anything but I just don't want to really give 'parrot food' that is just basically a bowl of sunflower seeds!

I have to buy different seed mixes too, they can't all just eat the same things. For example, my diamond doves, zebra finches and Chinese painted quail all eat foreign finch mix, the cockatiels and red-fronted kakarikis eat cockatiel mix which is suitable for most Australian parrots, the budgies eat a good budgie mix and like I said, my conure is on that special parrot mix. I give all of my birds tons of fruit and veg too. I'd love to convert them all to pellets but sadly most of these birds don't do the whole pellet thing. I mean my finches never bothered before so I thought it was fine to keep them eating the stuff they're eating now.

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OK thanks you guys!

it just that i didnt have such luck converting my budgie to different foods, lool

i would mix a bit of it up with his normal seed and he would manage to pick every little seed from that new mix and throw it on the floor

little bugger.

Daisy- i will go and look for that brand!

EDIT: didnt find that brand but here is a pellet type brand? there is no ash.

http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...&lmdn=Pet+Type

this one doesnt look that bad either. but the is a pretzel in the picture of the food? maybe? i dont know! it has lots of fruits mentioned in the ingrediants.
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...&lmdn=Pet+Type

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You can switch his food relatively easily, tho some birds are more stubborn than others. What are you thinking of switching to? Do you have any limitations to ordering food (such as you can't buy online, or it has to be at PetCo, etc)? I can recommend a few good brands once I know your buying situation and budget



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Lovebird... mince your budgies veggies very fine... I had better luck in the beginning with hard veggies like carrots and broccoli as well as finely chopped greens. My birds preferred them chopped to the size of millet seeds , and not wet or mushy. Mix about 1/2- 1 tsp of this with an equal amount of seeds . If they are still resistant try a 1 tsp. seed to 1/2 tsp veggies mixture. Remove ALL food at bedtime and then 1st thing in the morning when your birds are their hungriest give them the fresh veggie seed mixture... they will tend to pick thru the veggies to get the seeds but should after a while start to eat the veggies also... keep trying as this can take a while... after 2 hours or so remove the uneaten portion of this mixture and give them their regular food for the rest of the day... removing it at bedtime and start over again the next day. Also try sprouting seeds as they are better than dry seeds and look familiar to your birds. After the birds are eating the veggies you can start to add things like cooked brown or wild rice ( I buy a mix at walmart that has 4-5 different kinds of rice in it) cooked quinoa, cooked cous cous etc. My birds all ( 6 budgies a parrotlet and a green cheek conure) all love their cooked and fresh foods for breakfast.
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Jenny- well since i dont have the bird yet. and the conure is on a seed diet. i was hoping to convert to seed and pellet diet.

i have a bag of harrisons small bird pellets. i think that is what it is called.
and i would need some new food to because the food she is on right now has ash and a high fatty content.

my budget isnt that low. i could propably push it to $20 for a good 3lb of food or per month or whatever.

Thank you for that converting help. i wish i would have tried that with my budgie!

i will try that with my soon to be bird as well.
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A diet can be fixed. I switched all of my birds to Harrison's pellets, I even switched my budgies, and they are known to be difficult to switch. It does take persistance and time. I still let them eat seeds to vary their diet, but pellets are what they are mainly fed. Diet can be a tricky thing. Many people disagree on what is right.




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ok! ill just have to see what the conures diet is really like and move on from there!

WILL PROBABLY BE GOING TO SEE THE CONURE ON MON-TUESDAY NEXT WEEK!
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Just a idea, MYSAFEBIRDSTORE has some blends they make. The lady there(kathy) said that some seed diets have alot of fat that can cause tumors in birds so she makes a few blends that have less seed, lots of other stuff in it like dried fruits and veggies and herbs. So far Cricket loves it. He is a green Cheek conure. I would like some of you folks to look at that and the ingredients and tell me what you think? I have two different blends. Also don't change things as soon as you get him, let him settle in first for a few days. I think the name could be pronounced eyesis? Not sure. Good luck i hope you find a good blend. Let me know what you come up with.

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Shelly, could I have the link to those mixes please? Thank you

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YES ME TOO SHELLY!

ya i wasnt planning on changing it as soon as i got home.. maybe 1-2 weeks later?

got a email from the owner and i feel better now.

this is the email :

cage should be perfect for her, message me to make arrangements for a meeting when you return from your vacation, yes she loves veggies and fruit gets them 2 - 3 times a week i do one week fruit then next week veggies and she has her daily seed mix as well as tropican pellet mixed in as well ttyl when you get back bobbie

Im happy cause she gets regular veggies and pellets

RELIEF!!

NOW just to wait.

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Generally, you want to wait a good 2-3 weeks before changing the diet. Then go slow for another week or two, then you can start a cold turkey method - new food in the cage all day, seed in for 20 mins 3x a day, then 2x a day a few weeks later, then 1x a day for another few weeks, etc.

The mixes from Kathie are fantastic. I was going to recommend, as a seed mix, to use the Goldenfeast from her, she sells it bulk and cheapest I have found (tho I haven't looked too hard lol) and I also mix Roudybush pellets for mine which I get from Foster & Smith. Her pre-done mixes are great, she uses really good pellets. My birds are just so used to Roudybush, I mix myself instead rather than convert them. Probably should, would save some money lol!



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I dont know how to do a link but if you go to my safe bird store, and click on food and treats, then on the mysafebird store blends it will bring up what she has. The two i bought are called small hook bill supreme and bountiful harvest small. I also got the crantastic blend of cranberrries almonds and coconut for a treat. Cricket still leaves the pellets and doesn't eat them. I kind of wonder if the small hook bill supreme is a little small. it has alot of smaller seeds in the blend but he does seem to like it. Check it out and see what you think then let me know.

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OH THAT LOOKS GOOD!

i like this one too!

http://www.mysafebirdstore.com/produ...9&product=3517
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yes the blend looks good but Cricket doesn't seem impressed by the bagel things. I see Jen likes the golden feast but i didn't know if that was for a treat or for daily diet.

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