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Question advice on amazon diet

Hi there , I have an Amazon parrot , i got him approximately a year ago and since the day i first received him he has been on a baby-feed diet ,i have spoken to the vet on numerous occasions and he keeps telling me to introduce the foods gradually into his diet when i am eating,since he himself would want to have what his owner is having. I have tried this and yes he does eat a little but he has never eaten alot .Usually when i feed him baby-feed he eats until his stomach is bulged i know for sure when i see this that he is full but when i offer him foods, he only picks away for a while and then leaves it there and his stomach is still sunk in so i know he is still hungry , what do you think i should do ? he is almost one year and i do not want him to remain on a diet that is lacking the nutrients he needs.
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How old is he? Like is he a year old or older? The food doesn't go to the stomach it goes to the crop which is what you can see bulging out. Did you buy him unweaned? Just asking a few questions so we can see why he isn't yet weaned

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Hi Daisy,thanks for your reply.Yes I did receive him unweaned but only because i specifically requested a baby,at the time i had not known the difference between weaned and unweaned and thought it would have been better if i got him that way so as to train/tame him.It is only recently i have come to learn about unweaned parrots, what would you suggest to me to do about the situation ?
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How many feedings does he get a day? You could start giving less and offering tons of food to choose from, make it look fun!

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Hi there , I have an Amazon parrot , i got him approximately a year ago and since the day i first received him he has been on a baby-feed diet ,i have spoken to the vet on numerous occasions and he keeps telling me to introduce the foods gradually into his diet when i am eating,since he himself would want to have what his owner is having. I have tried this and yes he does eat a little but he has never eaten alot .Usually when i feed him baby-feed he eats until his stomach is bulged i know for sure when i see this that he is full but when i offer him foods, he only picks away for a while and then leaves it there and his stomach is still sunk in so i know he is still hungry , what do you think i should do ? he is almost one year and i do not want him to remain on a diet that is lacking the nutrients he needs.
What are you trying to wean him on and how are you gonig about it?

As much information as possible would be a real help so we can fully understand the situation
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well he usually eats formula ,3 times a day sometimes more , he wakes up late with me so we usually eat breakfast at 11 then we eat in the afternoon around 3(not all the time does he eat at this time,only sometimes) ,and have dinner around 9 and at 3 or 4am before i go to bed i feed him again. I have tired putting a separate plate of whatever i am eating for him , he seems to like that , but as i said he will only eat so much and leave the rest and walk off .However during the day he likes to snack on his seeds, i know they say sunflower seeds isn't healthy so I've tried getting the mixed ones with other types of seeds , i put a little of that on his playstand and i put some mixed granola that comes with dried fruits like cranberries,pineapple,coconut,and some other fruits also i try to put a little steamed vegetable for him to chomp on as well but he doesn't seem to really like that too much , he likes fruits though so i think i will try to incorporate some more of those into his diet ,and i sometimes give him some yogurt in his formula once or twice a month. Anything else you need to know ask me ,that's all I can think of for the while

thanks for your feedback looking forward to hearing your response .
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well he usually eats formula ,3 times a day sometimes more , he wakes up late with me so we usually eat breakfast at 11 then we eat in the afternoon around 3(not all the time does he eat at this time,only sometimes) ,and have dinner around 9 and at 3 or 4am before i go to bed i feed him again. I have tired putting a separate plate of whatever i am eating for him , he seems to like that , but as i said he will only eat so much and leave the rest and walk off .However during the day he likes to snack on his seeds, i know they say sunflower seeds isn't healthy so I've tried getting the mixed ones with other types of seeds , i put a little of that on his playstand and i put some mixed granola that comes with dried fruits like cranberries,pineapple,coconut,and some other fruits also i try to put a little steamed vegetable for him to chomp on as well but he doesn't seem to really like that too much , he likes fruits though so i think i will try to incorporate some more of those into his diet ,and i sometimes give him some yogurt in his formula once or twice a month. Anything else you need to know ask me ,that's all I can think of for the while

thanks for your feedback looking forward to hearing your response .
Is he actually begging to be fed or are these just set times you feed him?

Cut out the middle feed and only feed him morning and night and if he begs during the day try getting him to eat some warmed up mashed veg, or you can try putting his formula in a dish and see if he will eat it that way.
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He doesn't really beg ,rarely does he do that ,but i will try that and see how it turns out, he usually stays in my mother's daycare during the day so when he wakes up in the morning he's more excited to go there than actually have breakfast but i will let him snack on the vege.s during the day and see how he reacts to it, i have tried putting the formula in the dish on his playstand he does eat from it there.
thanks for your reply i will try what you said and let you know how it works out
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He doesn't really beg ,rarely does he do that ,but i will try that and see how it turns out, he usually stays in my mother's daycare during the day so when he wakes up in the morning he's more excited to go there than actually have breakfast but i will let him snack on the vege.s during the day and see how he reacts to it, i have tried putting the formula in the dish on his playstand he does eat from it there.
thanks for your reply i will try what you said and let you know how it works out
If he is not actually begging for food I would cut him down to a night time feed only in a couple of days, make sure you monitor his eating throughout the day to ensure he is eating though, and see how he goes with that, if however he starts to beg again try feeding him a bit of formula then encourage him to eat for himself.
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what would you advice i let him eat during the day though ? any particular foods ? i was reading online that there are recipes for birds ,I've never really made one before , should I try that ? what do you feed your birds on a daily basis ?
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what would you advice i let him eat during the day though ? any particular foods ? i was reading online that there are recipes for birds ,I've never really made one before , should I try that ? what do you feed your birds on a daily basis ?
My Amazon gets his seed mix, various treats, palm fruit extract daily, a soaking mix, a soaked pulses mix which is cooked up with veg every couple of days, fresh fruit and veg daily, his supplements - cuttlefish, iodine, mineral block an clay block.

Try him with soft easy to eat foods, so cook him some veg up, also try him on some hard boiled egg, soak some seeds for him overnight, try him on bits of fruit.
As much variety as possible.

Here's a couple of pictures of what I cooked up a couple of days back:



















You obviously won't need portions that size for him I have to cook for a lot of mouths lol.
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wow looks great , I'll def do that thanks , how do you soak the seeds exactly ?
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wow looks great , I'll def do that thanks , how do you soak the seeds exactly ?
I just use plain water, put the seeds in a dish and cover over completely with water (like in the pic above with the pieces of banana in), leave it overnight, then rinse it out really well and cover again for another 12 or so, rinse again before serving.

If you are sprouting, after the 24 hours of soaking just rinse them off and leave them in the dish, but you must rinse them really well a couple of times a day to stop them growing bacteria and going 'off'.

Then feed once sprouted (and rinsed well).
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Alongside chop, Clyde gets things like this. Some leafy greens, grapes, hibiscus flowers, Harrison's pellets & power treats, broccoli and nutriberries in this mix but its always varied

He also eats different seed mixes, pellets and he loves nuts

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Alongside chop, Clyde gets things like this. Some leafy greens, grapes, hibiscus flowers, Harrison's pellets & power treats, broccoli and nutriberries in this mix but its always varied

He also eats different seed mixes, pellets and he loves nuts
Ooh forgot about the nuts lol.
I buy human grade nuts and store them in the fridge for 24 hours before offering. Do check them over before offering though just in case you get a dodgey looking one.

Limit his sunflower seeds though as Amazons are prone to becomming overweight.

Let us know how he gets on trying some cooked foods. You can also try mashing it all up for him as it might be easier for him to eat if he isn't used to really 'chewing' on it yet.
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hi ladies thanks for your reply , you all make such great meals for your birdies I gave him some cooked yams today but he didnt really eat much and i tried giving him some raw carrots and broccoli he ate a few , definitely didnt see his crop come out much ,should i be worried ? i feel like he hasnt eaten much all day today , as for the seeds we don't have the mixed beans in my country , could you tell me what are seeds are found in the mix ? i could try to buy them separately and make my own mix thanks for you feedback you all have been so helpful to me i appreciate it !
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As they stop getting their feedings as youngsters birds stop having such expanding crops. They will eat little and often

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ohhh i see well that makes me feel relieved thanks for letting me know about that .
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This is in my bean soaking mix:
Soya, Aduki, Mung, Pinto, Blackeye, Haricot Beans, Corn Chick, Grean and Yellow Peas, Puy and Red Lantils, Wheat, Brown Rice

Be mindful tht certain foods like some beans and potatoes can not be fed raw they must be cooked.

For the other soaking mix I use:
Mountain Ash Berries, Sultanas, Cut Maize, Diced Pineapple, Groats, Elder Berries, Juniper Berries, Rosehips, Banana Chips, Coconut, Flaked Green Peppers, Flaked Red Peppers, Hulled Sunflower Kernels, Hulled Pumpkin Kernels, Diced Papaya, Diced Carrots, Diced Swede, Cut Green Beans, Garden Peas, Flaked Tomato and Fresh Water Shrimps.

That one doesn't get cooked, it can also be fed dry.

The seed mixes I use changes everytime as I just buy various ones and mix them together, I haven't yet found a good base mix I am happy with to be honest and having 6 birds that eat it it is very expensive to keep buying small bags lol.

If he eating throughout the day don't worry about his crop bulging, they don't as adults and with his feathers you won't really notice it. Feed him his nighttime feed for the next couple of weeks and see how he gets on. Then start cutting down on the amount you feed him till you can cut it out completly.
There is no real time frame for this however it totally depends on the bird, you don't want to cut all feedings out at this stage as he could revert.
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hi amelia thanks or the info , just put some beans to soak cant wait to feed them to him tomorrow also i noticed he doesnt like his carrots and broccoli raw neither cooked , any advice on how to incorporate it into his meal ?
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