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So, we got a scaly breasted Lorikeet yesterday, who has a very different diet to my other two feather babies.
The lady told us a bit about their diet, and my partner's Mum did some research before we got him and I did more when I got home.
I know they have a dry and wet food, but I was wondering what other types of plants/fruits/veggies they can have too.

Would I be able to purée some fruits/veggis and add them to the wet mix?
Also, how often should we be giving him the wet mix?

So any advice and information would be supreme

Currently we are giving him some fresh apple, he has access to some dry mix and we've given him a bit of wet mix today too.
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Darwin only gets his mix wet. He has the versele laga food called orlux lory. He has been a nightmare when it comes to eating solids and would only eat grapes and puréed fruit baby food! You can make your own and just feed that, no need to add it to his mix. He may love the taste I got him to eat some thin apple slices the other day so hopefully he's getting into the swing of things haha. They can eat anything as long as it is safe. No different to another bird

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Darwin only gets his mix wet. He has the versele laga food called orlux lory. He has been a nightmare when it comes to eating solids and would only eat grapes and puréed fruit baby food! You can make your own and just feed that, no need to add it to his mix. He may love the taste I got him to eat some thin apple slices the other day so hopefully he's getting into the swing of things haha. They can eat anything as long as it is safe. No different to another bird
Oh cool what brand of baby food? Or just puree my own fruits together ?
He really loves apple, I've been doing the same as you, thin slices and he goes crazy for it! Can't wait to try him with other fruits and veggies
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Darwin is a year old though and should be eating anything just blend your own mixes, it's cheaper and you can freeze it. Otherwise I just buy organic baby food that is only fruit and veg with absolutely nothing else added
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Darwin is a year old though and should be eating anything just blend your own mixes, it's cheaper and you can freeze it. Otherwise I just buy organic baby food that is only fruit and veg with absolutely nothing else added
Do you know what else is in the actual wet mixes for them?
Also do you know if nuts are okay? My cockatiel loves almonds :P
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To be honest I have never fed nuts but as long as they're fed in smaller amounts (if you have a lorikeet I'm assuming you know why they can't eat seeds and such), like an almond every now and then, they'd be fine. The lories and lorikeets and Loro Parque eat a wide variety of nectar, fruit, vegetables, soaked seeds and such and they have a few nuts thrown in and their birds are extremely well maintained

Kate is the best person to ask about lory mixes, she makes her own!
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To be honest I have never fed nuts but as long as they're fed in smaller amounts (if you have a lorikeet I'm assuming you know why they can't eat seeds and such), like an almond every now and then, they'd be fine. The lories and lorikeets and Loro Parque eat a wide variety of nectar, fruit, vegetables, soaked seeds and such and they have a few nuts thrown in and their birds are extremely well maintained

Kate is the best person to ask about lory mixes, she makes her own!
Okay cool! Thank you and yeah we did a lot of research, but although we did there actually isn't much info out there that we found on their diets (Well, nothing that goes into too much detail, and well I love knowning everything and anything I can about my birdies and their needs!)
So I'd rather be on the safe side for now!

And yes! I read in another thread on here! So jealous! I wish I lived near her so I could buy it !
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Wish I knew more about lorikeets, sadly, I don't know much at all! But congratulations on your new bird.




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To be honest I have never fed nuts but as long as they're fed in smaller amounts (if you have a lorikeet I'm assuming you know why they can't eat seeds and such), like an almond every now and then, they'd be fine. The lories and lorikeets and Loro Parque eat a wide variety of nectar, fruit, vegetables, soaked seeds and such and they have a few nuts thrown in and their birds are extremely well maintained

Kate is the best person to ask about lory mixes, she makes her own!
Why can't they eat seeds and such? I saw a rainbow at the store when I bought my tiel... He was tempting! I also saw a baby weaning rainbow at the breeder where I bought my GCC... She had a dish of Cheerios in the cage and told me it was to get it used to dry foods cuz they couldn't eat seeds but they could cherrios.... Now I'm curious...lol
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Their gizzards aren't as muscular as other birds and it causes crop impaction if they eat too much solid stuff
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Their gizzards aren't as muscular as other birds and it causes crop impaction if they eat too much solid stuff
Oh ok.. Thank you!
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Hi Sarah. Since you are not in NSW and can't buy my Lorikeet Mix I suggest you use Shep's Lory Wet, it is the closest to my mix, but mine has a bit more in it. Forget about buying a separate Wet and Dry Mix it just costs more money and is not necessary. Dry mix is only designed to be in the cage all the time and if you can't give them wet one day they are not going to go hungry. Dry mixes are basically only a supplement and I know with Shep's it only has about 6 ingredients where the wet mix has nearly 20 and is then complete. So if you wish to give both wet and dry just use the wet mix as a dry feed also. My birds all now just get my mix dry and mine was developed to be given either way. The only ones of mine that get wet now are weaning babies. I have actually just hand raised and weaned a Mustard Scaley Breasted myself. First baby from these parents.

Water is very important for you Lorikeet. Make sure you have a fairly large container for water but not too deep that they can't stand up in it. Lorikeets love to bath and will pretty much do it daily regardless of the weather. Plenty of water is also important with they dry food. They will get a beakful and go over to the water and make their own wet mix. With the wet mix they should only get enough that can be eaten in a couple of hours especially in hot weather. Also when I mix up wet mix I add some Cottees Raspberry Cordial, not the diet type, just add a small amount of the concentrate to make the mix a good rich pink. This cordial has been proven to be anti-bacterial and will prevent all kinds of nasty bacteria's from breeding in the mix, things like E-coli and Salmonella etc. I also use it in my hand raising mixes and have done so since 2000 and I have not had a case of sour crop since then, even some birds that have come to me with sour crop I have cured of it. The biggest killer of Lorikeets is bacterial infection. Wet Mix should be given either early morning or evening so that it is there for them first thing in the morning to save spoiling, but if you use the Raspberry Cordial it is not such a problem.

Lorikeets cannot digest seeds like other birds, but saying that they do eat some native seeds in the wild. Mainly the seeds of the Casuarina Tree (She Oak or Swamp Oak). They are very smart as the nuts from the Casuarina are very hard so they will drop them on a road and let cars drive over them to break them open. The seeds for that are really tiny. Also Lorikeets are very sensitive to iron so make sure that if you give them any baby food that it doesn't have any additives other than Vitamin C. When I make up hand raising mixes either for seed eaters or Lorikeets I will add a small amount of fruit and vegetable type baby foods. Things like Pear and Banana, Parsnip Carrot and Sweet Corn, Pumpkin, Apple and Mango. I have found that it makes it easier when they are weaned to introduce those foods fresh later on. I don't puree fruit and veges for my Lorikeets as they will all eat them in chunks. I don't even cut them up very small. For a pair of Lorikeets I will give them roughly a quarter of a small apple and they eat it no trouble. They are not over keen on things like Pear, Peaches, Plums and Nectarines, but love apple, mango, pumpkin, grapes, honeydew melon, watermelon (sparingly as it has so much water in it), Rock Melon, Silverbeet, Spinach (not much of both of those because of the iron), Kiwi Fruit, Capsicum, Sweet Corn, Sweet Potato, but basically all the fruits and veges that you can give a seed eater. I don't give them any of those cooked but give them raw.

One of the worst wet mixes in my mind is Wamberoo, it is far too watery and is more just coloured water, not much food value in it and they digest it far too quickly. Giving their food to them dry takes longer to digest so they will get more food value out of it, as they can assimilate more nutrients from it.

I would not give them anything like Cheerios, many breakfast cereals have added iron. The only ones I use which are in my Lorikeet mix are things like Farex and Rolled Oats. With the Farex type baby cereals I use things like Mixed and Banana, Apple, Pear and Banana and Fruity Muesli (fine ground). If you can get your baby to eat banana that is great. Banana is high in Phosporous, Magnesium and Potassium. But you may need to mash it and add a little Dextrose Powder. Banana is not very sweet and they are less likely to go for it. Dextrose is powdered glucose and can be obtained from the Chemist or Supermarket as Glucodin Powder.

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Hi Sarah. Since you are not in NSW and can't buy my Lorikeet Mix I suggest you use Shep's Lory Wet, it is the closest to my mix, but mine has a bit more in it. Forget about buying a separate Wet and Dry Mix it just costs more money and is not necessary. Dry mix is only designed to be in the cage all the time and if you can't give them wet one day they are not going to go hungry. Dry mixes are basically only a supplement and I know with Shep's it only has about 6 ingredients where the wet mix has nearly 20 and is then complete. So if you wish to give both wet and dry just use the wet mix as a dry feed also. My birds all now just get my mix dry and mine was developed to be given either way. The only ones of mine that get wet now are weaning babies. I have actually just hand raised and weaned a Mustard Scaley Breasted myself. First baby from these parents.

Water is very important for you Lorikeet. Make sure you have a fairly large container for water but not too deep that they can't stand up in it. Lorikeets love to bath and will pretty much do it daily regardless of the weather. Plenty of water is also important with they dry food. They will get a beakful and go over to the water and make their own wet mix. With the wet mix they should only get enough that can be eaten in a couple of hours especially in hot weather. Also when I mix up wet mix I add some Cottees Raspberry Cordial, not the diet type, just add a small amount of the concentrate to make the mix a good rich pink. This cordial has been proven to be anti-bacterial and will prevent all kinds of nasty bacteria's from breeding in the mix, things like E-coli and Salmonella etc. I also use it in my hand raising mixes and have done so since 2000 and I have not had a case of sour crop since then, even some birds that have come to me with sour crop I have cured of it. The biggest killer of Lorikeets is bacterial infection. Wet Mix should be given either early morning or evening so that it is there for them first thing in the morning to save spoiling, but if you use the Raspberry Cordial it is not such a problem.

Lorikeets cannot digest seeds like other birds, but saying that they do eat some native seeds in the wild. Mainly the seeds of the Casuarina Tree (She Oak or Swamp Oak). They are very smart as the nuts from the Casuarina are very hard so they will drop them on a road and let cars drive over them to break them open. The seeds for that are really tiny. Also Lorikeets are very sensitive to iron so make sure that if you give them any baby food that it doesn't have any additives other than Vitamin C. When I make up hand raising mixes either for seed eaters or Lorikeets I will add a small amount of fruit and vegetable type baby foods. Things like Pear and Banana, Parsnip Carrot and Sweet Corn, Pumpkin, Apple and Mango. I have found that it makes it easier when they are weaned to introduce those foods fresh later on. I don't puree fruit and veges for my Lorikeets as they will all eat them in chunks. I don't even cut them up very small. For a pair of Lorikeets I will give them roughly a quarter of a small apple and they eat it no trouble. They are not over keen on things like Pear, Peaches, Plums and Nectarines, but love apple, mango, pumpkin, grapes, honeydew melon, watermelon (sparingly as it has so much water in it), Rock Melon, Silverbeet, Spinach (not much of both of those because of the iron), Kiwi Fruit, Capsicum, Sweet Corn, Sweet Potato, but basically all the fruits and veges that you can give a seed eater. I don't give them any of those cooked but give them raw.

One of the worst wet mixes in my mind is Wamberoo, it is far too watery and is more just coloured water, not much food value in it and they digest it far too quickly. Giving their food to them dry takes longer to digest so they will get more food value out of it, as they can assimilate more nutrients from it.

I would not give them anything like Cheerios, many breakfast cereals have added iron. The only ones I use which are in my Lorikeet mix are things like Farex and Rolled Oats. With the Farex type baby cereals I use things like Mixed and Banana, Apple, Pear and Banana and Fruity Muesli (fine ground). If you can get your baby to eat banana that is great. Banana is high in Phosporous, Magnesium and Potassium. But you may need to mash it and add a little Dextrose Powder. Banana is not very sweet and they are less likely to go for it. Dextrose is powdered glucose and can be obtained from the Chemist or Supermarket as Glucodin Powder.

Hope that helps.
WOW That helps A LOT! Thank you so much!!!
I will be making sure my partner reads that when he gets home
hehe, I kinda mashed some banana up in Yoshi's wet mix this morning and he ate it like nothing had changed xD

Again, thank you so much! Can't wait to try him with some fruits and vegetables

Oh also : Would you happen to know were I could get the Shep's Lory Wet? I'll have a look around though, hopefully somewhere has it
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I have tried one in Darwin's cage but he just throws it to one side but I'm hoping to try it with my egg laying green nape! I can't see why they would be of any harm, try one anyways
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You may be able to find it at a large pet shop but if not you can get it online. Just do a search for Shep's Lorikeet Mix. Here is one I found straight away.

http://www.petshopboyz.com.au/Produc...?stockNo=19444

You can then buy large bags of it and store, it keeps pretty well. The online store above appears to give a discount if you buy 4 x 1kg bags.

You won't need to give cuttlebone to him. Good Lorikeet mixes contain calcium as an additive. It is the only supplement I put in my mix. A lorikeets feet and legs are very important to them so they do require a good supply of calcium. When you see them in the wild hanging upside down from a very thin twig you will realise that.

I used to add multi vitamins to my mix and found that their nails were growing long so I stopped using that, shortly after I stopped using a multi vitamin in the mix Sheps stopped using it also.

I don't give any of my birds cuttlebone. I have found that basically with the larger birds they just demolish it and don't actually eat very much. And many birds just don't eat it and only use it for a perch. I find also that they just get dirty. I prefer to put some calcium carbonate powder into the seed mix at least a month prior to breeding cycle. You don't need much and just mix it through the seed. Everytime a bird then cracks open a seed they get a bit of calcium with it. I don't like calcium products that are added to the water as it is quite easy in hot weather for them to overdose on it, and too much is just as dangerous as not enough. Many of my breeding birds are high calcium requiring birds. Alexandrines, Lorikeets, and all the Cockatoo family are high calcium requiring birds.
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