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Roni's pooh smells horrible after she eats kidney beans. I soak them for eight hours and then cook them, so I think they are prepared for her properly. I eat beans from the same pot myself.

Do any of the rest of you notice this after feeding cooked beans?
Do you think she is uncomfortable digesting them since her pooh smells so badly? They do give people gas.
Should I just limit her to one bean per day? I think, up until now, I've been feeding her 3 or 4 beans per meal when she gets them, and certainly not daily or I wouldn't know it is the beans. It is DEFINITELY the beans.
She really loves kidney beans.

Her pooh has virtually no odor unless she eats kidney beans.
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I suspect it might be because kidney beans are one of the more difficult to digest beans for birds.

The most digestible are mung, adzuki and green and yellow lentils.

I've only offered the above beans, so I've never noticed an odd smell in my bird's poop after eating beans


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I sprout all of the beans you mentioned, and she doesn't have an issue with them.

Soaking over night and cooking the large beans is supposed to render them easy enough to digest, but I guess she just needs to be limited. She had only one today, so I'll see how the pooh smells. She seems to really love them.

She's also had black beans in the past, and they didn't seem to cause this, but I may have just not realized it at the time. Sometimes, instead of just plain kidney beans, I make a mix of several types of large beans. I think she tolerates this better, too, but I'll keep experimenting.

Her favorites always seem to cause an issue. Her very favorite thing in the whole world seems to be fresh pomegranite, which she makes a horrendous mess with, then it discolors her pooh for some time.
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I would try soaking overnight, then rinsing well, and keeping them in water that you change every 8 to 12 hours, for about 3-4 days.

At that point, you will see that a few of them have very slight evidence of germinating. Rinse well again and cook as normal.

Soaking overnight does nothing more than impregnate each bean with an equal amount of water, thus shortening the cooking time and making them cook more evenly.

If I was after full enzyme inactivation, I would try what I suggested. I don't know how it applies to birds, but I sometimes cook beans for us this way and it makes them sweeter, and easier to digest.
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You know I am cracking up here! Dang bird has gas.
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I'll try that next, SevenVeils. I germinate/soak her seeds and nuts using an Easy Sprout. I didn't know how to do large beans. Thanks!

This should help my family and I out, too.

It IS funny, though. Except when you smell it. Whew!
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SevenVeils,

I germinated the last batch of beans I cooked, and the difference in my own ability to comfortabley digest them was remarkable. Thank you for the hint. It works great.

I still haven't tried giving Roni any of those beans. Will let you know if it results in a change for the better there, too.

Thank you sooooooooooooo much!
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Oh, I'm very glad that it helped you! I was just wondering today if you had tried it yet! Thank you for the update.

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SevenVeils,
I have given all of the birds large quantities of the germinated beans in order to really test whether or not there would be a change, and the problem has been totally eliminated. Everyone eats them as well as they eat any type of bean, which means everyone accepts them except for the lineolated parakeet, who is the pickiest bird in the house . The odor of droppings afterward is totally normal, even with Roni.

I'm happy for the change this has made in the bird droppings, of course, but even more grateful for the benefit to the humans in the house.

Thank you so much for the advice.


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Wow, I'm so glad to hear that it did the trick!

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