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Clyde update: Bad and good! [pics included!]

This bird sure does like to keep me on my toes. As you know from my previous thread, Clyde stepped up on to my shoulder completely out of the blue a few weeks ago. That alone was insane, it really was, because I hadn't even been putting that much effort in to training him. I have been trying to get him to eat from a bowl and occasionally my fingers as a reward. I then wanted to target train with him. Guess he had other ideas

It has been on and off since then really. He's very food motivated and I have found that he absolutely loves grapes more than any other food I've tried him with. Obviously I now have an advantage with him. He often watches Kona's training sessions and usually wants to join in but doesn't really have the confidence to do so but when he approaches me I always reward him. I just want him to think that I'm good, not a threat and I'm not going to interfere with his life or upset him. I'm the one who brings food, toys and love Anyway, I bought my self a pack of grapes. This means that I bought a pack of grapes and had about two before my house was in uproar Kona flew to me immediately and was trying to snatch them from out of my hands so I thought I'd let him take one and he could sit on a cage with it while I tried to encourage Clyde to come near me. Well, Clyde flew to a cage really close to me and came down off the play stand to nab himself a grape! Woo! But it doesn't stop there. I wanted to keep the session short so I did a few flights from across the room back and forth from the play stand to the Alexandrines cage and he didn't even care. He was absolutely loving it. What happened next shocked me though. I was really trying to get him to step up but he didn't want to know. He panicked and backed away. He did not like me approaching him like that. So I backed off. I noticed he was panicking about not getting the grape (I'm not kidding, he was frantically searching for it) and I showed it him again so he could see it. He leaned forward and was opening his wings as if to take off. I put my forearm out and he flew straight to me



I've had a break through with my toughest nut to crack yet! He did this a couple of times and as I have said it is on and off but I think it is a HUGE achievement considering how fearful he has been

Now I do have some bad news. Nothing that can't be fixed, but I feel a bit let down more than anything considering how much effort I had put in. Clyde has had a plucking relapse. I almost had his front fully feathered and all of a sudden I came in to see this...



It's pretty sad I know for a fact he started doing it throughout this breeding season and he has just hit sexual maturity so perhaps his frustration got the best of him. It has upset me, but I know I can fix it. I'm hoping to get another Amazon in October for company. Even if they don't hit it off I know he will appreciate having one around. He has tried to befriend the Alexandrine parakeets but they want absolutely nothing to do with him. I know he gets upset about it

I'm keeping up with the diet (you'll notice in nearly every photo he has fresh food around his beak!), he has toys (which he doesn't actually play with may I add, we're trying though!), he is out of his cage all day every day and he gets a lot of interaction both with other birds and myself. He looks a bit better already as he's grown the bottom feathers through again but it's still rubbish

Hopefully in the future he will have an aviary with this other Amazon More pics now, might as well throw them in here too















Look how much healthier the rest of his feathers look
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He looks awesome even tho a bit bare in front.. That must of been heart breaking... I was wondering why his beak looked so weird in a few pix, then realized it must be food on the end... It looks real long and thin...lol but the other pix his beak looks normal. To bad he wants a friend and can't have one... I hope you get the female!
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Awesome pictures!
Dear Clyde, you are such an adorable guy! If you only knew that you only have to wait for two months now to get a nice bride!
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I'm kind of in the same boat. My conure Daisy has had her head plucked bald again by Tai my maroon belly. Her feathers was starting to grow back but she's now bald again on top of her head. I have read in articles that maroon bellies are bad for plucking their mates, they don't pluck themselves though. I hope it gets better for you with your Clyde. He's looking great still!

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I'm kind of in the same boat. My conure Daisy has had her head plucked bald again by Tai my maroon belly. Her feathers was starting to grow back but she's now bald again on top of her head. I have read in articles that maroon bellies are bad for plucking their mates, they don't pluck themselves though. I hope it gets better for you with your Clyde. He's looking great still!
I have a brother and sister bonded pair of budgies... When they get in the mood and she starts sitting in the food dish trying to start a family, he so lovingly stands guard over her and preens her...BALD!! I have to remove them from the main cage cuz then they try to kill anyone who wants a bite to eat...lol I replace the eggs with white marbles and wait till they give up.
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An experienced breeder and mod of the German linnie forum has got good results putting rhubarb or myrrh tincture on the bold spots. Both taste bitter, and the partner bird will stop plucking there.
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Great progress.

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An experienced breeder and mod of the German linnie forum has got good results putting rhubarb or myrrh tincture on the bold spots. Both taste bitter, and the partner bird will stop plucking there.

That might be worth trying my bonded pair of cockatiels the poor lass grew loads of feathers back then got plucked again recently

As you know Daisy I'm so proud of Clyde and even though he only stayed with me around a week on his way to you, we did admit straight away we had a soft spot for him He was a nice bird he was just noisy and nervous lol

The relapse is a bit sad but he'd only been plucking a few months prior to you getting him, we believe through stress and hormones, so that definitely DOES sound fixable and you were doing so well before. Let's see what an end to the hormones and an Amazon buddy can do for him in the near future

Jasmin is doing well too (as I took her in not that long before you got Clyde). She is also slowly warming to me instead of being a firm mans bird although I have done no formal training with her and her feathers are molting in A LOT nicer, just like Clydes, brighter and shiney! Luckily apart from a bit of plucking around the thighs she hasn't been that noticeably hormonal but she is somewhere 10-13yrs old now.

She also goes totally barmy for grapes and apples are a firm 2nd favorite.

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Thank you everybody

I'm glad Jazzy is doing so well Layla. I can't get over her letting you pet her!
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