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A good companion

I'm looking at getting a bird but I have a few species on my mind of which I'm unable to decide between! I want a companion bird for myself, one that will want my attention and want a cuddle, maybe play and learn a few tricks but those are definitely secondary desires. So these are the species I'm considering and a few concerns.
Cockatiel - I'm getting mixed signals, will they want to spend time with me and hang around with me? Also, night frights, how frequent are they usually and do they always hurt themselves from it?
Green Cheek Conure - I'm told they are noisy and others say they are quiet, what's the answer? I don't want something that's going to make a lot of noise all the time.
Lovebird - From what I've read of comparisons, these are louder than GCCs! And nippier too! Some sources say they are little devils but I've read that they are usually sweet with training and with the person they bond to.
So of these three, could anyone tell me loudest/most noise to quietest and most attention wanted to least attention wanted? I'm really looking for a bird that wants to hang out with me and keep me company, I'd love playing games too and setting up play gyms to watch them run around on!
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I'd go for a cockatiel, personally. I think they're exactly what you're looking for. As for night frights, I've never actually had many at all keeping them covered can help a lot
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If you get a tiel that has night frights usually as night light helps. But not all tiels have those.
If you are worried about noise then a bird is not for you. They can all be noisy and annoying at time.

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I have a green cheek and a tiel.. ( a parrotlet and 5 budgies ) my green cheek is a very quiet bird, very docile sweet and cuddly. She loves to be on me and does a few small tricks such as high five (4... Lol ), dances and gives kisses. She can be nippy at times but is just 2 yrs old and I think a tad hormonal at times.. She has never had a night fright even tho other birds caged beside her have.
My tiel is louder than my green cheek, but is not overly loud unless I leave the room, then she contact calls me... If I whistle back a few times she usually stops. Mine is female and I have heard males can be louder but also they can learn to talk and mimic. She is very friendly and sweet, cuddly and loving. Loves to fly to whoever she feels will give her the most loving at the moment.. She can be very sassy at times and when she is she will bite like crazy, but with no pressure and no pain...lo it's like she wants to bite you but does not want to hurt you. She is a very silly bird and will run around my hubbies desk grabbing his pens, caps etc and throws them on the floor. She is happy either out flying on us or in her cage playing with toys... She is a mix of independent player and sweet cuddle bug. She does have night frights once in a while, but they are usually started by the budgies in the next cage and the panic can be contagious. My birds have never been injured badly during a fright. A few budgies have bloodied their wings a bit thrashing, but my son usually ears them and turns the light on for them and then calms them down. I leave a 15 watt lamp on at night for them and that helps immensely!

Out of those two species ( have never had a love bird but heard they can be terribly nippy and aggressive ) I would recommend a handfed/raised socialized tiel as a better choice, however if you think a green cheek is what you want I would not hesitate in recommending one either, but they do require more training when young to correct the nippy ness they are prone to.

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I recommend a lineolated parakeet. Female tiel would be quieter than the rest on your list. Gccs don't make noise all of the time, but when they do, they are loud. Lovebirds make noise often, and it is pretty shrill.

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I'm biased, but I recommend a Senegal. Mine is pretty darn quiet and loves to play and snuggle. Linnies are another good choice. Mine are the quietest birds I've ever known.

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Topaz - I've had birds, I know they can be noisy, my cousin also breeds birds and by goodness do I know some are louder than others and also that some make noise more often. I'm just looking for least noise in the types of birds I have access to and think suit. No reason to worsen the headache if I love all the species.

4thebirds - I'm beginning to consider it! I've had a couple recommendations to it on other sites!

thekarens - I love sengals! But they don't seem at all readily avaliable in this part of Australia so I can imagine their prices would be high! I'd rather get a bird that's available so not going to be toooooooo terribly expensive leaving me more to spend on toys!


I'm glad to hear about the night frights with tiels. Could anyone tell me how females go with egg laying? I keep hearing horror stories with chronic egg laying and I'm hoping it isn't quite as terribly as I'm hearing!
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go a cockatiel!! lol i'm a cockatiel fan
night frights almost never happen! i've owned cockatiels for 2 and a half years, and only ever had 2 night frights. that's good going.

most females aren't too chronic with egg laying. there are several hormonal reduction techniques so that you can stop them laying - long nights, regular cage re-arrangements etc. and if it really does get chronic and i've only ever heard of it once (!), then you can talk to your vet about long term cures.

but seriously, my two cockatiels are so cuddly and social they love spending time with me, and fly after me everywhere! great birds - you should trot over to Talk Cockatiels if you want to find out more.

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[QUOTE=redstone;151113]Topaz - I've had birds, I know they can be to it on other sites!

thekarens - I love sengals! But they don't seem at all readily avaliable in this part of Australia so I can imagine their prices would be high! I'd rather get a bird that's available so not going to be toooooooo terribly expensive leaving me more to spend on toys!

From what I hear Linnies are rare in Australia and very expensive too.

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DebiWings- yeah, I found that after researching them, pity, they're gorgeous!

Sengals... I've found a few decent prices and a few in the 1000s so I suppose that one depends on the situation when I have the money for a nice cage and everything, I want to make sure the bird is really happy.

Out of curiousity, how good do people usually find double stack cages? Also, how would cockatiels and GCCs get along? I love the GCCs and cockatiels, I think I'd be prepared and able to care for either and wonder if there's a chance they would make good company for one another? In different cages but able to come out for supervised playtimes, as I've read two different bird species are sometimes better than one because the birds are less likely to become aggressive and disinterested toward you. I'd get a cockatiel first probably as it seems to be the mellower bird and if I think I could handle more bird than that! Or if I just want my single tielly :3
I'm vaguely frightened of lovebirds now with what everyone says! They can't be that nasty!!
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DebiWings- yeah, I found that after researching them, pity, they're gorgeous!

Sengals... I've found a few decent prices and a few in the 1000s so I suppose that one depends on the situation when I have the money for a nice cage and everything, I want to make sure the bird is really happy.

Out of curiousity, how good do people usually find double stack cages? Also, how would cockatiels and GCCs get along? I love the GCCs and cockatiels, I think I'd be prepared and able to care for either and wonder if there's a chance they would make good company for one another? In different cages but able to come out for supervised playtimes, as I've read two different bird species are sometimes better than one because the birds are less likely to become aggressive and disinterested toward you. I'd get a cockatiel first probably as it seems to be the mellower bird and if I think I could handle more bird than that! Or if I just want my single tielly :3
I'm vaguely frightened of lovebirds now with what everyone says! They can't be that nasty!!
What about meyers parrots? They are smaller than a senegal, but larger than a gcc. Everyone I have ever talked to has nothing but good things to say about them.

About cockatiels and gccs, at the local high end bird store, I saw a baby gcc house with a baby cockatiel. They were fully feathered and just weaning. They seemed fine. Leads me to think, if they were raised like that from a young age, they could be friends. Maybe get them at the same time...something like those two.

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Oh my goodness!! What have you done 4thebirds haha, given me a new obsession meyer's are gorgeous! I'd still like to find out more about the cockatiels and GCCs in case I find out some deal breaker but my goodness they are beautiful parrots!!

Focussing again.... I've seen a few GCC/cockatiel couples claimed to be best friends and living together, generally raised from babies together, it makes me wonder. But then I also wouldn't want the poor cockatiel hurt!
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ok where to begin um..... cockatiel i love tiels females are quieter than males and like mention before you can use techniques to discourage egg laying. if you get a hand feed baby that has been handled a lot they love cuddling and being with you. they are also smart and can learn tricks. they do like being with you and spending time with you. now green cheek all are different some are loud some quiet mine is very quiet she/he is one of my quietest birds. kiwi my green cheek loves to cuddle and be silly however they do go through a stage i like to call the terrible twos but once this stage is over they are back to their lovable self. mine does however have attitudes on occasion kiwi reminds me of dr Jekyll and mr Hyde but they are silly little clowns and do love to cuddle and if you can deal with the nippiness and terrible 2's they are great birds. love bird nico is my lovie he loves to be with me he will pace back and forth in the cage until i get him out. his favorite spot to cuddle is under my chin or next to my neck under my hair. he does nip now and then but nothing bad. the bad thing about nico is when he does make one of his calls he is really loud and high pitched. my little lovie will snuggle into my hand to get cuddles and attention and he plays with me by gentle grabbing my fingers with his beak. which bird should you get which ever one you thank is best. every bird can be cuddly and lovable and every bird also has it's faults. it just depends if its faults will be ok in your home or not. cockatiels female are quiet males sang and talk both can be loving and cuddly birds but they are dusty birds. lovies can be cuddly and sweet birds but they can be loud at times. green cheeks are known to be little clowns but they do have nippy moments and will go through the terrible twos as i call it. it all depends on you and what you want to take on. and all birds are different you may get one that does not like to cuddle but likes to hang out you may get one that loves to be cuddled all the time. each person on here as a different experience with each one of these birds so you will get lots of different answers my opinion look at the faults and decide if that fault will work or not in your home. the reason i say all this is i have seen people buy a GCC and it was a sweet bird and cuddly bird and then they want to get rid of it because it is going through the terrible twos stage i mention i don' t want that to happen to you. i have all three of these birds and love everyone of them i wouldn't trade them for anything but i can't say which one you should get because we like our birds are different. sorry for the long post but i wanted you to know the bad with the good please let us know what you decide


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Thanks heaps Lisa that was all really helpful. I've definitely read about the 'terrible twos' (excellent name!!!!) stage in GCCs, I have horses and my filly definitely went through a terrible twos stage! By goodness horse bites hurt! So I'm not too bothered about temporary stages, just the general personality. Which I suppose is why I'm asking everyone opinions. I definitely don't want to find myself with a poor match so I'll do everything I can to minimise chances of that. The only thing that isn't really doable in my place is constant noise all night, every night.
And thankyou for the information on lovebirds, I hear lots of contradicting things about them but whenever I've played with them or seen them at pet shops, they've been such curious, gorgeous little things and their size is so endearing. Added to that, my partner adores them so I'd get away with more with one of them haha. Hm, thank you again Lisa, that was super helpful
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If you get a single male lovebird they make a great pet. I had a peach faced lovebird for 18 years and he was the sweetest little guy.

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Aw, are females generally more aggressive? I just love the little guys and if it has my partner wrapped around its little toe, it will be beyond spoilt haha
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Thanks heaps Lisa that was all really helpful. I've definitely read about the 'terrible twos' (excellent name!!!!) stage in GCCs, I have horses and my filly definitely went through a terrible twos stage! By goodness horse bites hurt! So I'm not too bothered about temporary stages, just the general personality. Which I suppose is why I'm asking everyone opinions. I definitely don't want to find myself with a poor match so I'll do everything I can to minimise chances of that. The only thing that isn't really doable in my place is constant noise all night, every night.
And thankyou for the information on lovebirds, I hear lots of contradicting things about them but whenever I've played with them or seen them at pet shops, they've been such curious, gorgeous little things and their size is so endearing. Added to that, my partner adores them so I'd get away with more with one of them haha. Hm, thank you again Lisa, that was super helpful
your welcome females and males both will get hormonal i had a female a few yrs back she was very sweet and nico is a male he is a complete baby to be honest i would get a male when it comes to love birds simple because i would not want to worry about eggs or egg binding but i have heard some females do get really aggressive when they are hormonal and males are not has bad

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Ok, and what about as lovebirds get older, do they usually get aggressive as some say or is that more of a myth usually?
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Ok, and what about as lovebirds get older, do they usually get aggressive as some say or is that more of a myth usually?
i would say a myth i know a few that has older lovies and they are still very sweet

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I have a nanday conure. He is very loving. He does not make a lot of noise when I am home. But when I am out on the street I can hear him chirping and it is pretty loud. If he does not like something (if someone comes in my house he does not like) he will scream very loudly and for long periods of time, until the person he does not like leaves. But this behavior has gone subsided as he has gotten older and as he has gotten use to more people coming over. Overall he is NOT noisey when I am home, but he is capable of making a lot of noise. I think the bigger problem with conures is the chewing. He likes to chew things especailly leather products. He tries to get in my closet where he knows my leather jackets and purses are. He also loves to chew magazines and paper products. I have tried buying hime chew toys but he is never interested in them. So I started giving him rolls of toliet paper--- undyed, plain white and he will chew it for quite a long time. It makes a big mess but he is happy so who cares about the mess. But as far as affectionate and loving he is the best.
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