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Breakthrough on day 3!

So as some of you know, three days ago, I rescued a lovebird from my pet store who'd been there for almost two years, with no contact or friends for about half that time. He was very friendly on day one, mostly out of fear I think. Yesterday, he was very aggressive and lunged at me every time I put my hand near his cage. But today was so good. When I let him out for his out of cage time, he landed on my arm and sat there for about 20 minutes, just testing it out. He even had a little nap there. We're working on the cage aggression and made a game of "gentle beak." When he lunges at fingers, I leave them there and touch his beak for just a second. He still tries to bite, but when I stroke his beak, he relaxes and closes his eyes and fluffs his mutton chops. I have to be quick though, eventually he remembers to be afraid and then the chompers come out! It's so cute, and also sad. He wants to bond with someone so badly but he's so nervous. He's obsessed with my budgies as well. It's starting to become evident how lonely he was in the pet store. But I'm very proud of the little progress he's made. Now instead of lunging at my hands from across the cage, he runs at them with his mutton chops fluffed
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Hi Ariel,

It's so good to read that you're making progress with your little rescue lovie...he probably has lots of love to offer, but is so confused.

Have you thought of a name for him yet, or are you even sure that he's not a she?

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Don't become too confident, he is on the honeymoon stage.
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Bibi, I don't think that there IS a "honeymoon" phase with Parrots, at least with what I've experienced anyways.

With my past Cockatiel he was super Friendly to us right away. Yes it took time for him to trust us enough to let us give him scritches but he would step up and come to us on day one.
Parrots can also be in the same home for years and years and suddenly decide they hate someone. They are all individuals.



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Ah yes, the dreaded honeymoon stage
Honestly, I'll take whatever he's willing to give. If today he is trusting and tomorrow he's not, that's okay. I'm just as proud of him for every bit of progress he makes, no matter what phase or mood he's in. I'm excited to help him work through his traumas and I'm so glad I get to be the one to watch him experience what life can be


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Also John, in sticking with the Disney theme, we have named him Kuzco. We haven't had him DNA tested yet, but we think he's a boy, as he tried to mate with his sister before she sold about a year ago. We'll have him tested eventually.


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Sounds like he found the perfect home with you Ariel! He is a lucky one to have gotten out of that shop and in to a home where he will be spoiled and loved and get to experience what being in a loving home means!



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Congrats, Ariel.
He has learned to trust you very quickly, well done.
It's very normal that he searches for contact with the budgies.
Lovies are called "The Inseparable" in German.
So we Germans always keep at least two of them.
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I have said it a billion times and I'll say it again. Lovebirds do not do well together in a none aviary environment. Even in an aviary environment, I have seen extreme aggression to the point of one killing another. Even though he is liking your budgies, never ever 'trust' him. I know that sounds terrible. I do find them far more gentle than the peach faced, but there is always the possibility of a budgie getting hurt or worse, killed! Budgies can be very, very over-confident little parrots and when they clash with a lovebird, it's not pretty!

As for getting him to be gentle, that's great! He seems to be pretty settled, he's very bipolar already I'm sure you will learn to read his body language very well soon and hopefully you'll know when to fluff up those mutton chops haha

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Yeah I'm not really keen on him having a relationship with the budgies just yet. Maybe once he's better trained and I can better predict his reactions. The budgies ignore him completely and have no interest in him whatsoever. He is less clingy to them now then he was at first so maybe way down the road I'll see about some out of cage time together, but right now that's not even on my radar. I'm going to play it by ear and see how he does.

Today was the first time I've left him since he arrived. I unfortunately had a ten hour school day. So we spent the morning together and then when I left, I put some music on, put him in my room with the budgies, and made sure the timer on the lights dimmed at his bedtime. I came home and he was contentedly falling asleep with a tissue in his grip so I think he did just fine


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Sorry, Daisy, but I think in this point we will always disagree.
I'm a member of three German bird forums and I've never heard of such bad problems with lovies under appropriate keeping conditions.
That means a two sex couple, no sibblings and a cage size of at least 100 x 50 x 50 cm.
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My lovebirds have been kept in a now none breeding situation, in a 9ft long x 6ft wide x 6ft tall flight and I have never not had problems with them. They seem to go for months and suddenly somebody will just snap and there goes a toe, or in my situation, a bird dies. Plenty of feeders, perches, toys etc. I have since decided to downsize on the peach faced lovebirds as their aggression is just far too much to handle. I have kept one, Blackjack. I bred from him and unfortunately is mate passed away. The siblings hit sexual maturity and one killed the other. Recently, the remaining 'son' had actually opened his own cage and had flown out WITH Blackjack. Blackjack was found the following morning but Pebbles didn't come back. I rehomed Apple to an indoor home where I found she was more suited and my sister pair, Buttons and Berry, are going to a friend who also has lovebirds. I will keep my black cheeked, as they are no bother, but peach faced are unbelievably territorial and do not care who or what they attack. Pebbles and CJ were like best friends! Next thing I know I'm getting a phone call to tell me to rush home as CJ had been killed by Pebbles in a VERY violent fight. That was in an aviary, not a cage!

That said, if he is a well rounded, parent raised bird, then he could have the potential to pair up with another. BUT! As he is used to being a companion parrot, I would be too worried that he would not be comfortable sharing his human, his space etc.

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Sounds like you have the 'Nordic' killing fields there.. Sounds like they all need to be separated..
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Right now, the budgies avoid him. They're a bit nervous around them and he starts harassing them (hanging on their cage, whistling at them, etc) if he's bored when I have him out. Luckily, he's more interested in me. He's deathly afraid of fingers so we've been learning step up with a dowel, which he picked up almost immediately. His favourite game right now is flight recall. If I stick the dowel out and tell him to step up, he will fly to me from anywhere in my apartment. He absolutely loves it. When he lands on the dowel he gets rewarded with a kissy noise and a piece of millet and then I tell him to go hide and we start again. I'm trying to get a video of it but it's hard to hold the camera and the dowel at the same time. We are also working on stepping onto different surfaces. He's afraid of the windowsill, the top swing in the window, and my desk, so we've been practicing stepping up onto the dowel and stepping down to the scary surface. We share a healthy breakfast together every morning. He's super well behaved to the point that I am suspicious of him and he's catching onto things that took the budgies months to perfect (not that I don't love those ditzy buggers dearly). Tonight I am taking him downstairs to watch tv for the first time tonight, as he loves watching movies on my laptop.


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Bibi, I don't think that there IS a "honeymoon" phase with Parrots, at least with what I've experienced anyways.
Not sure exactly what you mean, but I know that there are some larger birds that definitely have a sort of "honeymoon" phase. Especially, for example, cockatoos. There are occasions where they act very sweet when you first bring them home and then suddenly, (it could be a few days, weeks, or months) once they are used to everything, they can become crazy little demons. I've read this before many times.




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Personally, I think it depends on the bird, just like everything else. One of my budgies was very docile and sociable until he settled in after about a month. Now he's a crazy, energetic little thing who gets into everything. His curiosity knows no end and he's also MUCH louder than he used to be. He's louder than my lovebird most days. That said, my other budgie's personality has remained pretty much the same since I got her. Everyone's different. I hope kuzco doesn't have a honeymoon phase, I hope he's a lovely sweetheart forever!


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Mo snaps from 'Mo the Scared' To 'Despicable Me' to 'Mo the nice boy' all within 30 minutes..
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Sounds like you have the 'Nordic' killing fields there.. Sounds like they all need to be separated..
Are you referring to my lovebirds? I did state that they have all been separated and rehomed. That was in an aviary though, imagine it in a cage

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Of course the cage size I mentioned was meant for one couple and not more.
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