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Unhappy In Need of Some Help with my IRN

Hello Everyone! I am looking for some advice to help me bond with my Indian Ring Neck Ringo. First, let me give you what I know of his history. Ringo has had four owners (as far as we know) including myself. His first name was Mr. Ed and then changed by the second owner to Ringo. I have no info. on the first owners, but the second owner had him caged most of the time, he was not handled, or really had any type of hands on experience. The second owner had him for roughly a year and a half. My Aunt takes in rescue birds (which is how I got him) and was his third owner. She had him for about a week before I was able to get him from her. So now that you have a bit of his history, let me get right to the problem I am having.

Ringo doesn't really show aggression so to speak but I can not get any where near him. I open his door first thing in the morning to allow him to come out as he pleases. He will not come out on his own. If I even walk within 6 foot of his cage he will go straight to the back of his cage and shift side to side (in one place) like he is having an anxiety attack. I have been trying to coax him with food (millet, apples, peanuts) to come out but he is just so scared. I know he is young enough still that we can fix this but I am just not sure how to go about it. Once a day (usually evening time) I will towel him and place him on the perch on top of his cage or on the play yard. I immediately step away so that he sees I am not trying to hurt him but allow him time to play outside of his cage. He will bite during the toweling but he has never lunged or anything to try and hurt someone. He just runs away.

So... any ideas on how to help this poor baby? I hate to see him so scared and sad. I want him to be able to play and enjoy his life and the world around him. My conure loves him to death but he is scared of her too. She tries to give him kisses or sit beside him and he takes off. (They have seperate cages, but can interact on the play yard)

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You will find that this is usually a problem most people have with Indian ringnecks and it's also why I don't understand that people are mass producing them or catching them from the wild for the pet trade. They just simply don't make good companion parrots that majority of the time! That's not saying no IRN is suitable, or no IRN is trainable, because they most certainly are

Have you tried clicker and target training? You can do it from scratch and still get a well rounded bird. My blog isn't the best blog out there, but it has tips on how I have trained completely fearful birds to recall and everything. Not much on there on the moment but I will add to it with time, you can find it in my siggy. But anyway, clicker and target training is super easy and works wonders

I would stop with the towel all together. They will only learn to associate you coming over to the cage with being towelled and that's where more trust issues will come up

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I don't think the toweling helps. I would let the conure do all the "work". I had a pair of ringnecks, one was tame, the other was wild. I had them for over 10 years and the wild one never became tame (however I never really worked on getting her tame). She did get to the point where I could service the cage without freaking out...she took her cues from the friendly one.

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As Daisy said, I think IRN are just not made to be companion birds. I have an 18 month on IRN girl and while I would say she is tame - she does step up for me and allow me to stroke her at night time, she takes food from my hands and she never bites me - she's just not friendly. It's more like she just tolerates me while I annoy her by touching her, lol. They just seem like they're very independent birds.

Even tame ones I've seen on Youtube, like Bowie from Peekaboo Parrots' page (go look him up, he's adorable) are not particularly friendly, cuddly birds.

Maybe you could coax him out with something like a trail of food he likes..maybe some millet placed just outside the cage? I think like with taming any bird it's going to be a slow process. Start off by sitting near his cage and reading aloud so he can get used to your voice and you being near. Don't attempt to engage him, just let him get used to your presence.
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Thank You Ladies for the great tips I have decided to do away with the towel. I guess I just had high expectations for being able to calm him. He is my second IRN. Joey (my 1st IRN) was AMAZING! He was everywhere I was lol and super loving. When we lost him my heart shattered and I wasn't sure I wanted any more birds ever but then my Grandpa talked me into the conure (glad he did) and then the new IRN. I just hope with time and patience I can atleast get him to where he is calm enough to just be around us. Wish me luck!
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Good luck, Bailey! Let us know how you're getting on with him =)
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Yes, stop the toweling immediately, it's completely counterproductive. Just open his cage door and walk away. Put a couple of perches on the outside of his cage and something he likes (treat, fruit, nut, whatever) on the top and just wait him out. He will, eventually, come out. It might take months but he will. In the meantime, spend time just making him company. Find the distance when he starts acting 'antsy' and take a single step back, sit down and read, watch TV, play video games, etc. Speak and sing to him and, occasionally, offer him a treat. But do it as in passing, don't walk up to the cage looking at him, that's what a predator would do. Always observe him out of the corner of your eye until he feels 100% comfortable with you. He doesn't have to love you, he just has to realize that you are no threat to him in any way. Once you see that you can go to your 'place' without him reacting and that he is relaxed when you are sitting there (relaxed body, he moves around, he stretches, he preens, he eats, feathers not erect and not tight against his body, etc) for a few days in a row, move the chair one step closer and start again. You see where I'm going? Slowly, gradually and ALWAYS at his pace. Once you can sit right next to him and he's still relaxed, you can start target training him. If he goes back into his cage when you bring the target stick, it's OK, you can teach him to target in it.
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Friend of mine lost her IRN yesterday, he had been ill for a few weeks...but he was one of the sweetest birds there was. Loved his scritches, begged for them...wanted to be with her and her husband all the time. I personally believe that it truly depends upon the bird and the owner more than the species...but that is just me. There are "general" rules and there will always be exceptions to those commonly held beliefs so I wouldn't give up on your attempts to train your IRN.
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It does depend on the individual bird and the owner but IRNs are usually more difficult to maintain docile than other species like, say, a grey.
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Look for taming Bob thread. Tamed down an IRN. Patience and time.

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