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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-22-2014, 09:19 PM Thread Starter
 
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Unhappy Parrot Enemy #1



Okay, so, I'm very aware that parrots are often 'one person' birds, and really only bond to one member of the family, but, I am having difficulty with even basic tasks with these birds.

In the short time they've been with us, they've bonded completely with my husband (which was a bit of a surprise I guess, they are in my home office near me all the time, Nathan even specifically put them with me since he felt bad that his cockatiel loved him most) which I really don't mind--But I've become a symbol of hatred for these birds I guess!

Regular cage maintenance like cleaning and even feeding lands me with DEEP HARD bites. I know not to react and all that but it doesn't seem to help in this situation. The parrots are very territorial.

I wake up earlier than my husband, their cage is in the office, so part of my morning routine is to say hello and good morning to the birds. I'm generally greeted with screams and beak banging against the cage--this is as opposed to when my husband wakes them up, greeted with happy chattering and desiring to be pet. If I have to give them new food or water I often have to distract them on the opposite end of the cage--otherwise the birds will lunge and chase me down until they get to my hand and bite, and not a test or warning bite either!

I know the rules, I know you aren't supposed to react to a bite, don't want to teach them that they get their way. Still hasn't slowed it down one bit, though! Even feeding favorite treats doesn't spare my fingers.

This isn't specifically just in the cage--though they are very cage territorial towards me.

I'm not expecting a miracle. Yes I will admit I let my feelings get hurt, I know it's silly. I guess I just would like to at least be considered neutral rather than something to be feared!

I do follow video tutorials and read up on behaviors, but it's tough. It's not quite like a wild untame bird, they are super tame and sweet towards other people in the home. It's not even specific to my husband, they act the same whether or not he is in the room/if I was spending time with him.


Are there any specific training or bonding techniques I could try? I'm sorry if I sound so silly. I know birds can pick favorites and I know that birds sometimes can decide they don't like someone for whatever reason. Sorry for the long post, anyway.
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Barbara Heidenreich using Positive Reinforcement Training. Barbara has delt with birds bonding strongly to one partner and aggressive to the other.

Now my call as far as biting goes.It is OK to tell them off, they certainly would be told off if they stepped out of line in a flock.
It is how you do it that counts. You are right you must not make it a positive for them. Let them walk all over you and they will.
And anybody who can take a full on bite and not react is probably not human. It is how you react after that counts. I do not have this problem. But i have worked with a Sun Conure where she was shoulder happy and did not like being removed. She was easy meat and I cracked her in just a few tries. In first vid you will see I did react badly. Sorry about that, she took me by surprise, with just how hard she hit me. (and I had been warned). But just got on with what I was working on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jSihryujLo

Next day I did the same test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSR9jgMhUmM

Ok I except it is not this easy most times. And working with someones else's bird is not this simple in most cases.

Back to cage aggression that is not so easy to deal with. Can you let them out before servicing the cage?
I am not sure what I would advise! A spatula maybe to hold them back with while you deal with dishes. Hopefully if you do this a few times they may get the idea you are not going to be intimidated by their bad attitudes. And remember to be calm and positive when dealing with them.
But hey this is only my feelings and may well be wrong.
Just I am not into gloves or towels to hold them off.


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I was going to suggest what Clive said, could you not let them out of their cages BEFORE cleaning them out? That way, you're going to have at least a head start

Try clicker and target training, and reward by giving the treat from a bowl, not your fingers for now. It can really help them get to like you and over time you will build up that trust with them

You need to always approach them with a positive attitude though, even if you're just putting it on. Parrots feed off that energy so you have to be strong and not show any weakness, fear etc. Otherwise they will pick right up on that which would then lead to you getting bullied by them

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Here is what Barbara has to say about respecting the bite.
http://goodbirdinc.blogspot.co.nz/20...ting-bite.html

I may have a link to cage aggression somewhere I am still looking around for that.


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What species, genders, ages, background are we talking about here? Because, although there are things you can do to make things better with any species, certain 'befriending' techniques are very specific to the birds themselves.
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What species, genders, ages, background are we talking about here? Because, although there are things you can do to make things better with any species, certain 'befriending' techniques are very specific to the birds themselves.
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But are them rehomes or babies? If rehomes, what are their backgrounds?
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I think that you need to sit down and have a few talks with them. Really! The very first talk that I would have with them is to be honest and tell them in detail exactly how you feel and why. Don't worry about whether they understand you or not but you need to get this out so that you can begin to set things right. This one talk is for you.

Now you can take 10 or 15 minutes twice a day to just talk to them in a calm, soft voice and tell them all about how you would like life together to be. Tell them about your hopes for you and them, throw in words that you would use to praise them, to calm them and to tell them what good birds they are/ will be. After a while they will begin to respond by coming closer to you, when they do this offer up a treat and keep on talking to them. It may help to just pick one of them to do this with, and work with just one at a time, especially to begin with. Then once this bird is accepting a treat from you place your hand on the cage and continue talking to the bird until it will come to your hand on the cage without biting you. Then you can begin target training with that bird. And start working with calming and taming the next bird. This is one way to start building a foundation based on trust.
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