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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-22-2011, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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GCC biting

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As much as I think my GCC Gracie is the best and cutest bird on the planet, she has her flaws. She is 5 months old and has been with me for 2 months. She has been biting A LOT lately (the last couple of weeks). I suspect that she is having some separation anxiety because I work full time, so she is home by herself for 8.5 hours five days a week. I think another reason she bites is if I am asking her to do something she doesn't want to do (like step down off of my head)

She is out of her cage as much as possible. When I home, she is either being held by me, or playing on her play stand. She comes to me readily (sometimes she even runs and jumps on my hand ) The issue lately is that I'll be holding her on my finger, and she will reach down and just start chomping away, and I don't understand why . Like I said earlier, she will bite if she is sitting on my shoulder or head and does not want to come down. She also bites when I try to put her back in her cage. I've been working with her and rewarding her when she steps up into her cage without biting. I know GCCs have a nippy reputation, but I know there are things I can do to minimize the biting...anyone have any training tips?? BTW, I've tried all the usual tricks: hand quakes, blowing on her, tapping her tail, saying "no bite", wrapping her in a towel, putting her in her cage for a time out, etc, but these things are not working and most of the time seem to make her bite even more!

I would really appreciate any tips or references to training/behavioral info.

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Libby will definitely give me a nip if I want her to do something she doesn't want to do! They can be very willful -- I like to say "sassy". And yes, if I try to reprimand her, she gets more mad and bites more. They want to be the boss!

I don't allow Libby on my shoulder at all and definitely not on my head -- don't want to get my hair pooped on - ugh! You may have to not allow that at all, at least for the time being.

One thing I have noticed is that last summer, when she went through her first molt, I let her flight feathers grow out. When I saw they were a beautiful blue color, I couldn't bear to clip them and left her fully flighted.

For a while, it was great. She only flew if she was startled, and then she'd fly to me or back to her cage. In the last month or so, though, she has started flying away from me when she didn't want to do something. Plus, she was getting more nippy than was manageable.

So last week, I clipped her flight feathers - 7 beautiful blue feathers on each wing. I wrapped her in a towel and she didn't bite me while I was clipping them. I was sad to do this, but had to. My Parrotlets is MUCH less nippy when clipped, so I hoped it would work for Libby.

It has changed her tremendously! She obeys now, she's way less nippy and comes right to me when I open her cage door. I think some nipping will always be there -- this is how they communicate with us and test thing.

Now, if I'm putting her in her cage for example, and she won't "step down" but tries to nip, I stop what I'm doing, tell her "NO" and ask her to step down again. Usually she does without any problem.

So it's kind of a combo deal -- clipped wings and learning to avoid the nips.

Also, when I brought Libby home, I made sure she would be content playing in her cage on her own. So right from the beginning, I didn't take her out of her cage every time I came into the family room. This has worked well, because she's very happy playing by herself and coming out to be with me. She also has a VERY large cage, so plenty of room to roam around.

She may also be going through some hormonal stuff or getting ready to molt -- this is rough on them too.

This has been my experience -- hope there's a couple of ideas that will help. It's a battle of wills with a VERY smart bird!

Good luck!

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Thanks so much! That info is really helpful. Gracie is just beginning to go through her first molt. I know my English Budgie, Bubbles, was very grumpy whenever he was molting, so I did suspect that one of the reasons she may be biting due to her molting.

I feel the same as you about her flight feathers. They are so beautiful, and I want her to experience flying at least once in her life. Birds are so lucky to have that gift and I do not want to take it away from her. Her flight feathers have not fully grown in yet, but I will probably have them clipped once they do

I have been letting her spend more time on her play stand, because I want her to be more independent. I say that, but I think part of the problem is that if she is near me I can't resist petting her! Last night, she was sitting on my bf's shoulder, calm, content, and preening herself (not biting like she was with me). I asked him why she was so good with him...he said "because I am ignoring her." Maybe she is just telling me to leave her alone!

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I'll bet the molting is part of the problem. I've heard that first molt can be hard on them.

Yes, I'll be keeping Libby's wings clipped from now on. I'm sad about it, but have no choice....sigh.....

That's interesting about your bf. I've always read that when you bring a new bird home, don't give it more attention in those first two weeks than you'll be able to give them for the rest of their lives. They get used to it, expect it, demand it.

Good luck! Hope she gets better -- they are such wonderful birds!

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Great info Jo Anne. I just brought my GCC home (still no name) and I have not taken the bird out every time I'm in the room too. It's so easy to take a sweet little ball of feathers and turn them into spoiled, demanding little brats. I also keep wings clipped. It's safer that way in our house.

Conures are nippy and beaky. Maybe yours is going through that testing stage where they see what they can get away with. Plus, like others have said they can get cranky when they're molting so it could be a combination of things. Make sure you don't react too much to the bites because you don't want to reinforce the bad behavior by making it fun for the bird.
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They do like to test us, don't they! They seem to know how much we love them and that we'll do anything for them!

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Jo Annes post pretty much explained everything any of us could have said I'd just keep working on her and making she knows for sure that she shouldn't be biting you

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Clicker training works wonderfully with most green cheeks. You might try that so that you can substitute a desired behavior.


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Good luck Stacie! Russ also has nippy period it seems throughout the year when he seems more nippy, comes with the species. I give Russ free flight because I cant bear to clip him and I suppose he is more dominant because of it, I find it helps sometimes when he's in a "mood" to turn down the lights or turn some off around the house almost like a little tim out, I find because its dark it quiets him a bit.

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