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New to a Linnie!

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Although I have had budgies before, I've never had a Linnie, so I feel a bit new to it all! I was just wanting a few opinions on how long roughly I should wait until I let him out to fly? Just with past budgies I usually wait until they're finger tame (so I can get them back in their cage if they're struggling etc) but do I wait until Harvey will go on my hand to let him out or is that potentially too long?

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How long have you had him for? And is he not hand raised?

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Thank you!

I only got him on Saturday afternoon and on Sunday I did actually put him in a new cage as I felt the one he came in was too small... so the "settling in" only really started Sunday.

A lot of the budgies the breeder has are photographed on-hand for sale, but there weren't individual photos of the Linnies just a sample few to show available colours. In amongst all my questions I was bombarding the poor man with, I forgot to ask if they were hand raised as well as the budgies...but I'd take a guess that if the other birds are, they will be.

I just really don't want to scare him and want him to be very comfortable with me and being in close proximity before I let him out in case he gets into bother and needs me to help him.
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Does he seem like he wants to come out? if he does then I wouldn't wait if he is hesitant then take your time, sit by the cage and talk to him, don't make fast movements. Sometimes birds want to be near you but don't want to be touched. You could also try putting a perch on the outside of the cage near the door so he can climb out but still feel the comfort of being by his cage.
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No he doesn't seem like he wants to come out at the moment. He's still quite wary of things and me. I have the cage open sometimes to try and feed him apple of just get him used to my hand being close by, but yes I sit by him and talk to him to try and get him used to my face/voice/proximity I have the cage on the table when I'm doing work so I can talk to him plenty. Thank you, yes I was thinking of putting a landing perch on the outside of his cage by the door so he can come out if he wants (eventually). I'll just take it slow with him and hopefully he'll bond well Thanks!
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Hi and welcome...I have no real life experience with linnies but they are a bird I considered at one time. From what I understand they are a much more sensitive and flighty bird than a budgie. Not as much a hands on bird altho there are exceptions to the rule, I think they tend to be more hand shy ... Some one correct me if I am wrong please.
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I think because it's my first pet from a baby whilst living alone (i.e. not a family pet) I'm just a bit nervous of doing something wrong. But he seems happy, munching away at his food and fruit and chirping calmly now and again. I think I'll just have to wait until I feel he's more comfortable with me, so even if he won't go on my finger, if he gets into any distress whilst out of his cage, at least he'll be ok with me coming over to help and hopefully that not stress him out more! I just want my little feathered friend to be content
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Hi Jessica,
I think it would be a good idea to leave him in his cage for one week, so that he can get used to his new enviroment before you let him fly.
Another point is that linnies won't be really happy without a partner of their species.
Many solitary kept linnies get behavioral problems when their puberty begins.
Linnies are team players.

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Hi Karin,

Thanks for your message! Yes I'm going to leave him for a little while and see how he goes As for getting another bird- I've read so many different conflicting things: some say they're absolutely fine on their own and will consider you their soul mate, others say to have them paired, some say not to have a fluffy housing/tent/nesting style thing in the cage as you'll have a "hormonal bird", others say to have one as they like to sleep under cover- it's so confusing! But thank you for your advice
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Congratulations on your new linnie. There is a lot of conflicting information because many times behavior is compiled from many different species. Most linnies do much better with a partner (there is the occasional older linnie that does not know how to bond with other birds). A lot of people have a pair or more of linnies and some have single. It doesn't seem to make a difference in their personality (pairs can still be tame, singles can develop hand shyness, etc).

I find the two linnies are not more trouble than one and they keep themselves entertained. You mentioned that a single one will consider you it's "soul mate", would you be ready for that kind of commitment. Look at pictures of linnies....most show two or more snuggled together and that is the way my two are almost everytime I look at them. I cannot provide that for my bird throughout its lifespan because of work, children, vacations, etc. For linnies in particular, I think two is a good thing.

As for letting him settle, my first linnie was more shy and took about a month to be comfortable. I would talk near his cage and when he started coming near me and seemed pleased to sit near me, I opened his cage. He would climb out and then I used to hold food for him to come to me. Remember, always let the bird come to you and don't invade his personal space.
My second linnie was more comfortable with hands and it took her about a week to come to me. Let the bird be your guide.

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Thank you very much, I will give this some thought and see how he does. It's good to hear that one of yours took about a month to settle in. I will just keep doing as I'm doing and talking to him plenty by his cage, so when he starts getting used to me and coming close to me, I know he's ready
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New to a Linnie!

Hi I have had experience with a single linnie. She was fine and very independent for the first 6-8mths that I had her. After that point she became very clingy and would yell for me all the time. I had never spoiled her and always was quite consistent in giving her attention, but the change happened suddenly. Everywhere I went she was quite frantic about following me. It made me sad because that sort of attachment feels unhealthy. It seemed to me that she was missing me too much whenever I wasn't with her and I couldn't be with her every second like she needed. A rescue linnie I had intended to find a home for ended up bonding with her. At that point I had to decide to take on another linnie or rehome them both because I couldn't split them up. Because my grandmother had been diagnosed with stage four cancer and my dog with addisons disease, I just felt another linnie would be too much in combination with my other pets and their needs. It was heartbreaking kissing her little belly for the last time and putting her in the ladies crate-then watching them drive away. Even tho I know she is with a nice lady, I still miss her to this day. I think about her all the time and say a pray that she is happy. So if I ever had it to do over I would have gotten two linnies from the start so that I never would have had to put her or myself thru that heartbreak. But if your new linnie is your only pet, and you can devote all your free time to it, it may be fine depending on its personality. Every bird is different, but generally I dont think its fair to make any pet live alone without another of its kind. I have two dogs two parrotlets and a budgie mess but thats another story. And they all still love me. It is very endearing to see them together and how happy they are.

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Hi Jessica,
Congratulations on your Linnie!

Jill also recently got a Linnie and has also received some additional
Linnie experience. Check out this thread too:

https://www.talkparrots.com/showthrea...466#post290466

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Linnies are very different from Budgies. Budgies move fast and will hop onto an out stretched finger. Linnies move slowly, (although they can run like the wind LOL!, and seem to think about where they want to go.

They don't like fingers, and they much prefer to crawl up your hand when offered Palm up and fingers together. If flighted, they can fly very fast, so I would keep him in one room when out of the cage.

And the worst Linnie trait of all, even more than the poop is that they borrow. Given the opportunity, they will borrow into a towel, chair, couch and people have sat on them. They love to play on the floor, so like a toddler, you have to keep an eye on them, but they are absolutely wonderful pets.

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New to a Linnie!

I think the worst trait is their running around. My experience is that linnies love to run around everywhere and it is hard to catch them. It seems like you are constantly running after them. They are very high energy pretty much never sit still except when scared. They run extremely fast and especially like to jump to the ground and run. It is just really dangerous. I don't know any other species that does this. I also think they move much quicker than budgies or parrotlets and are much more acrobatic and agile. They also don't seem to think before they do things sometimes. For example when she was flighted she would constantly fly to the parrotlets and try and fight with them and they were just minding their own business. Not a smart move because if threatened they would seriously hurt her and she knew they didn't want her around. The budgies and parrotlets never pursue a fight or attempt to go around one another. They would only fight if the other were to get in their space which Mina was insistent on. Also Mina was just so frantic to be with me she would literally run through complete danger if thats what it took. It's like chasing an ADD toddler around. Don't touch this, get away from that, don't fall, don't run across the street etc., lol. You have to watch them like a hawk the whole time they are out, they require 100% attention. Versus my plets or budgies, I can multi task with them out and they stay on their play area or my shoulder 90% of the time and have a lower energy level.

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They are great well at least mine is most of the time! (now that I have focused on giving her more of the correct attention, aka doing things slowly and her way!) they are definitely more cautious than budgies and take a lot longer to earn your trust, which seems very similar to larger parrots (and most people say they are like smaller versions of the larger ones!) the best thing to keep in mind is have patience and take things slowly, it's kind of a waiting game, but hopefully yours will come around like mine did and you will love him just as much
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I actually love their running around. They like to play on the floor every night, so I sit on the floor in their room and let them play with their floor toys, under the paper on the bottom of their play stand, under the TV stand, then run over to give me kisses!

What I don't like is when bad weather is coming and they get crazy due to low pressure - Comet bites my hands and neck, and Scooter makes a poop mess in the girls house! Today he pooped right in a new cup of seed -little stinker!!!

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they get crazy due to low pressure - Comet bites my hands and neck
I'll ask Paulchen if low pressure is the reason for his biting.
I feel that Yuki also doesn't understand why he does it while we are playing.
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Today he pooped right in a new cup of seed -little stinker!!!
Paulchen did that yesterday. I was preparing their seed dinner on the floor when he flew on the food bowl, turned around and pooped right into it.
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lately Kissy likes to climb right up on my shoulder next to my ear and then scream to see if my hubby is home thank you, Kissy... wait, what's that? sorry, I can't hear out of my left ear!
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Oh yes, they can scream very loud, my specialist for that is blue.
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