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One scared little pionus

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My four year old white-capped pionus has become a nervous wreck. Recently, Tiki has been excessively loud. Not outright screaming, but constant clucking and other various noises, especially when I leave the room. He (we call him a he but am beginning to think he is a she) is scared of pretty much every household item I put in front of him, which is a new behavior. Tiki has been dancing more than normal lately and I feel that it is because he is so nervous and is using these movements as a way to soothe himself. He just doesn't seem like a happy bird . I cannot think of anything that has changed in our household! The only thing that I can think of is that I believe Tiki has reached sexual maturity. He (she?) makes this really bizarre clucks while positioning herself so that her bottom is up in the air. Tiki also is starting to threaten to bite when I lift his wings to inspect his feathers, which is also a new behavior.


Can sexual maturity cause a bird to become a nervous wreck?

ANY suggestions to help Tiki overcome these behaviors such as the excessive noise and being scared of every object?

Any suggestions would be very appreciated
-Jill
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I don't know if male larger parrots have that same nesting behavior, so your Tiki might in fact be a girl!

Do you change his cage around a lot? like swapping out toys and moving perches around? I know that if birds have kind of the same thing all the time, they can get very comfortable and can get stressed out if things change in the future.

Sorry I'm not much help, I'm sure someone will come along soon that will give you some sound advice
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You mention she is four years old, but how long have you had her? Also, where are you located. In the northern hemisphere, the days are growing longer. My birds are getting in the "mood" although no actual breeding behavior, they are definitely acting more nervous.

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I think they become mature before they are four years old, so sexual maturity might not be the reason.

Could Tiki be looking for a mate? Perhaps he misses a partner.
Could you have him DNA sexed?
You say Tiki is dancing. Which size does his cage have?
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Thanks everyone for the replies!

Jill, I do make an effort to swap out toys but probably donít do it as often as I should. I will make more of an effort to switch his cage up as well as introduce Tiki to new objects and hopefully that will help!

Anna, I have owned Tiki since he/she has been about 4 months old. Tiki will be five in May, so I have owned him (?) for about 4.5 years. I am located in Saskatchewan, Canada. I have noticed that Tiki is different with every season! Tiki usually is pretty quiet until April or even May. I attributed the increased noise to songbirds returning, but I bet youíre right about the days being longer, especially if Tiki is a girl! Is there anything I can do to calm Tiki down or will Tiki get over it and calm down on his(?) own.

Karin, you may very well be right, but I have read somewhere that some medium/ larger birds may not reach puberty until the age of four? Tiki has been exhibiting mating behaviors for about the past 6 months, but I have noticed a drastic increase in this weird clucking and these bizarre positions for the past month, which leads me to believe that TIki may be a late bloomer? Tiki has never met another bird, so he is not missing partners. No one has abruptly left his life where he would be missing a certain someone. Tiki was in a medium sized cage ( I donít remember the dimensions but he had enough room to open his wings and for toys) but I always have left the door open and he(?) spends most of his time on top of his cage, on us, on the couch with us, etc. A few days ago, I bought Tiki a larger cage with a play top (here is a link http://canadacages.com/products/A11-Smooth-Black.html). I felt bad for completely changing his home while he seemed so nervous, but he took the move quite well! These behaviors I have been seeing have been happening before the cage change, and I donít believe his behaviors has been exacerbated since the move. I call Tikiís dancing the ďStevie Wonder danceĒ lol. He whips his head back and forth in kind of a figure eight pattern and sways at the same time. He used to do this to music or when I walk in the door, now he does it after he begs to be picked up or in a stressful situation, such as being near an object he is uncomfortable with. Do you know what this dancing could mean? Is the cage I had chosen of adequate size for Tiki?

I really need to get Tiki DNA sexed. I take him for annual check ups/ beak trims/ nail trims with the vet and always decline the sexing because of the price (Iím a student and donít always have an extra $100 bucks ). I have also kind of put it off because it is so weird to think that Tiki might be a she! For four years I have just assumed and been told that Tiki is probably a boy lol! Next vet trip, I am for sure getting Tiki sexed for sure.

Thanks again for all of the suggestions! Tiki is my first bird and I really appreciate everyoneís input
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Tiki has never met another bird, so he is not missing partners.
That doesn't matter. If he is hormonal his instinct makes him look for a mate.
I think parrots are more happy with a partner of their species.
The dancing could also be a sign of feeling lonely.
We humans can't be a substitute for a parrot partner.

You could try to reduce his hours of daylight and to reduce protein food.
Perhaps that could make him more calm.
If the cage is only for sleeping the size should be ok.
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When i had irn, i had two females. I gave them a nest box (actually they had it all year long) but in the spring they would make a nest and lay a few eggs and i just let them incubate them for a couple of weeks to get it out of their system. It is a strong instinct to nest and lay eggs. the last few years i had my irn, my living situation changed and I didn't have room to give her a nestbox, but she was definitely more nervous and active during this time. I just waited it out.

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I've heard of birds like lovebirds or linnies needing to be together but pionus become aggressive and lose their human bond when kept in pairs... do you think this is true? If it's not, I would consider getting a friend. Problem is, there are NO pionus around here! The only other pionus I saw was a bronze wing at a pet store. I frequently check local adds for any breeders (getting another bird is always in the back of my mind although I don't know how my SO would react lol) and I haven't come across any pionus in over three years! Say I struck luck and found Tiki a buddy, would they feed off of each other's noise? Could they be kept in the same cage once properly introduced?

I will try the nesting box, thanks! My only concern with the nesting box is becoming egg bound. My grandma had a cockatiel that died of it
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If you get a partner for Tiki you won't be No. 1 in his life any more, but that doesn't mean he looses his human bond.
And nobody can promise you that he'll accept the new bird because he has been kept solitary for several years.
But if it works the behavioral problems will probably disappear.
I think you couldn't keep both parrots in the cage you showed us, it is definitely too small for that, each animal needs its territory. you would need a small indoor aviary.
That's my linnies' cage:
(But linnies are much smaller than pionus.)

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Thanks Flapping Mama for your suggestion! I may have to keep my eye out for both a pionus and a larger cage .
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I think you have a 'SHE'... Just remember, as a single bird, 'she' loves you, so will try to entertain you. My female galah [30 yo], 'purrs', like a cat,whenever I talk or give her a back scratch, whereas my Juvenile Male has become very stressed this summer that he cant get near her [separate cages]. A partner for the bird you had 1st , see's you as a threat, so doesn't necessarily like you.. I have to equally spread my love , 3 ways , every night, to keep everyone happy...[BIRD PSYCHOLOGY????]
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Thanks gwhizz!
I think you are right that I indeed, have a female. I'm starting to accept it but after nearly 5 years of owning her, it feels really bizarre to call him a she lol . Thanks for sharing your experience with having multiple parrots. If I do choose to get another bird, do you think it has to be another white capped pi? I cannot find anyone remotely around here that has one/breeds them! I've always had a soft spot for caiques. I know this relationship depends on many things, but say Tiki is accepting of other birds and this works out, can Tiki form as strong of a bond with a caique as she would with another pionus? Or does it have to be the same genus?
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It should be the same species and different genders, then it's more probable that the birds like each other.
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The odd clucking with the butt up in the air definitely sounds like female behavior, even if I've only seen it in my cockatiels. It's pretty distinctive.

If you're looking to get a companion, another bird of the same species but opposite gender would be your best bet. Minimizes chances of conflict between the two, like Flapping Mama mentioned above. I tend to think along the lines that birds fully seem to recognize 'kin' verse other similar species in the wild.

Point of interest though, my first cockatiel I had alone for about six or seven years but started seeming very lonely and seeking out for attention we couldn't seem to give. When I got him a companion and introduced them very slowly over time, he still wanted nothing to do with her. Even as my flock expanded, he has remained a very solitary and 'keep to himself' kind of bird, even though he thrives with people again. I let him out in the aviary with the others for awhile every day for the sun benefits but he can get annoyed past a few hours and would rather be alone afterwards. Not a horror story or anything to dissuade you, he's a pretty irritable (but loving!) bird in general anyways. Just something to keep in mind with a bird who hasn't seen other's since they were young.



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Seriously, These 2 galahs don't give a damn for Cocky , Nor he them, but all love to unite on Cocky's arrival home each night.. Ritualistic? None of them appreciate change & when I do a clean up or move a different car into the garage, for them , It is quite scary!.. Cocky would fit in well, with the movie''GROUNDHOG DAY"..
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That's very interesting, SoCalTiels! I've always wondered how Tiki would react with other birds. She is very accepting of our rabbit, dog, and doesn't make strange with strangers. Obviously none of these are birds, but I wonder if Tiki is generally a pretty accepting parrot? I've been checking ads and bird forums across Canada and the only pis I can find are in Ontario (I'm in Saskatchewan) which is much too far away!

Update: Tiki seems to be back to her old self again! I haven't seen any mating behaviors and she seems more content. Like I said earlier, I did switch Tiki's cage recently and since she's moved in, she seems like she forgot all about her hormones and is more interested in all of her new stuff! Hopefully it'll stay this way for a while!
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Good to hear! Thanks for the update. Hope Tiki stays happy!

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Yes, that is good to hear!
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