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How to Get Scully on My Hand

So I've had Scully for 2 weeks and a couple of days. This might be to soon, but how should I get him on my hand? He'll let me scratch him, when he needs to be scratched, but anytime else he'll bite REALLY hard on my finger.(I have tough fingers though!) I tried what the previous owners did, say "Up up!". ( If you think that worked, talk to my finger!) Should I wait a little longer? I think he might have a little nippy problem though, so this won't go down without a bite or two....


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If he is tame then you should be able to just ask him to step up. I don't think you have to wait. Do what the previous owner did and say "up up!" and see what happen. To me he don't sound like he fully hand tame, semi maybe. Find out more about him from the previous owner. Ask if Scully is "hand raised". If he is not then you're going to have a bit of problem getting him to step up on your hand.

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He steped up on the previous owners hand with a couple of soft nips, but he didn't try to not go on her hand..... He actually went from her hand to mine when I visited, but he thought going to the cage was better so he went on to is cage....


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well in that case I would suggest you try to temp him with his favorite treat to step-up on to your hand.

Hold the treat at a distance so that he can only reach it by stepping onto your hand to be able to get at the treat. Also by doing it this way you're keeping his beak busy on his treat so therefore wont be bitting you.

I haven't tried this myself but just a thought

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I've tried that...... I'll try it again when I let him out!


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Don't rush him. He may be still a bit unsure of you. It's still all new to him. I have a parrotlet that was supposedly hand tame and seemed okay at the breeders but once I got him home it was a whole different story. I think he was more 'frozen in fear' when I handled him at the breeders and I am convinced he was not handled much, if at all. So what I'm saying is that maybe he wasn't handled as much as you think. It sounds like you've made good progress so far so just read his signals and go at his pace.

I used to have a grey and one thing I can say is that if he nips you hard do not react. My grey bit my mom when she was watching her for me and she made such a big deal of it the bird always tried to bite her because in her little birdy world that was a pretty fun thing to do. I know she enjoyed it because she loved to repeat what my mom said to her when it happened. Thankfully my mom is not a big swearer although she did learn one minor swear word that day.
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True cioc t, maybe it is a little to soon. Scully apparently learned to say " Ouch, no no!" from the previous owner when he bit her! (It's said in a funnier way than you think though!)


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I do not have experience with larger birds, but have heard that some people will make a fist and offer the wrist or arm to the bird to step up on... less things poking out to be bit...lol and also have hear to wrap your arm in a towel so you have a little cushion... not sure if either works... when I got my parrotlet he was such a little biter I had to wear gloves for the first couple of months with him... he would rip chunks out of my hands... now he only nips and not to hard.... I wore light leather gloves , but one draw back with gloves is it reduces the sensitivity of your hands so you have to be careful. ( use of gloves to handle parrots is controversial ).
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Yeah, good point ParrotletsRock! It would be harder to bite a large thing.....hmmmmm


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Try stick training first if you're worried about your hands. Use it to press gently onto his belly and hopefully he will step up. Using a treat is the easiest method though. My conure flies really far for a bit of papaya or mango

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I'll try that Daisy! Now to find a stick......


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I know many grey owners, myself included, who have a hand-held perch that they use to transfer their greys with whenever the greys are moody. If the previous owner did this, Scully will be used to it. If not, I would still try using a treat to lure him onto a hand-held perch at this time in your relationship instead of trying to step him up to your hands right now.

I will carry both my senegal and my grey on my hands, but my daughter always carries them, if and when she carries them, on the hand-held perch. If either of those birds are wound up and might bite me, I will carry them on the hand-held perch during that time, myself. I think this is a very important tool if you live with birds who might bite when being transferred. I do know MANY grey owners who have this issue with their greys, and all the grey owners I know have greys who were hand-fed as babies and are still considered tame adults. It just happens to be a common behavior with greys. They don't all become intermittent hand biters, but many do.


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Thanks for that info, Nanay. I'll surely need it.




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Abby,
Your grey may never develop this behavior. Some are always gentle.

However, I strongly believe in teaching the use of a transfer perch to all birds. Even birds who never bite sometimes fall behind things or fly up high, and a transfer perch can get into places easier than your hands can sometimes. Also, you never know when or if any individual bird might decide it doesn't want hands inside its cage. Who could blame any bird for that? Birds who don't want hands inside their cages but who already know how to use transfer perches don't have to be stressed when they are being taken out of their cages or put inside them. Then, there are the birds like Roni and Ashlynn, who sometimes simply bite. I can usually predict when Roni is getting ready to bite because she gets overly excited, and she usually laughs before she bites, but I can't always tell enough in advance to get her into her cage before she starts to display these warning signs, and once she starts giving the signals, unless she is right next to the cage it is not possible to return her to the cage before she actually bites. With the transfer perch, though, I can get her on that before she gets too wound up. Ashlynn is different. I am not good at reading her. I've asked a lot of people about reading greys, and I've learned that many people have difficulty reading when their greys are getting ready to bite, too. I haven't learned her signals well enough to always get her into a safe place before she becomes angry, so I use the transfer perch any time with her after she has been out of the cage for a while and I have to move her from place to place. It is also nice with birds who might bite others to have the transfer perch option available when others have to care for your birds.

I suspect you will get along with your grey a little better than I get along with Ashlynn. I love her dearly, but I find that I am intimidated by her. All of this is getting better between Ashlynn and I thanks to some advice that Jenny gave me recently. I admire people who are comfortable with the large birds. I'm not giving up on my relationship with Ashlynn, but I am now aware that I am more comfortable with birds Daisy's size and smaller.


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well in that case I would suggest you try to temp him with his favorite treat to step-up on to your hand.


I haven't tried this myself but just a thought
Not meaning to be rude, but that ended up being a mark on my finger!


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Scully was struggling to step on a surface, so I put my finger under his foot and he left it there!!!!! Then, after like 5 seconds, he took my thumb (very lightly) and shook it! What does that mean if anything? This happened like 3 times!!!!


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Not meaning to be rude, but that ended up being a mark on my finger!

I did say I haven't tried it out yet Well done Scully

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Scully was struggling to step on a surface, so I put my finger under his foot and he left it there!!!!! Then, after like 5 seconds, he took my thumb (very lightly) and shook it! What does that mean if anything? This happened like 3 times!!!!

what do you mean "he took your thumb? was it done with his beak or his foot?

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Beak! He put his foot on my index finger and held my thumb and shook!


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I have no idea what that means, but it sounds really interesting, and I'm certain he was trying to communicate SOMETHING, but what?

As I stated earlier, I've not been smart enough to learn grey body language and other communications yet. I guess that's why they learn our language, because we are too stupid to learn theirs. (Well, you seem a better student of it than I am - I should clarify and say I'm too stupid to learn theirs.)


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