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I just ran across an unusual training method by a Ken Globus, which I just found out he passed away. Has anyone here heard of him and his methods and if they have tried them and they worked for you? I curious seems like a rather quick way to train your bird.

Im curious to what others think about this. Type in the name in you tube or just on the internet and watch his videos fro his website and maybe we can all talk about it.

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My avian has used Ken G's method of training in the past. Its worked well for him and the many birds he tried to remove the fear from. He suggested to me to watch the training videos and see if I thought it was a good idea to try on a budgie I was having serious problems with.

People dislike the training because you overwhelm the bird refusing its physical freedom while you hold it gently in your hands and quietly talk to the bird settling it down.

The treatment has to be done a few times a day and you cannot stop the training even just one day during the days of training or it can make the bird fall back into its old habits of fear.

It was a last resort for me to try this training on a rescue budgie I had mixed feelings about the training and I still do but I had to do something drastic to reach this bird so I started the training.

In less than 48 hours there was an amazing change in this budgie.

She stopped screaming. She was willingly sitting on my finger and would allow me to move her around her cage from perch to perch or bring her out of the cage and walk around the room then putting her on a play gym and leaving her be.

By the 3rd day she would allow me to rotate her from hand to hand and touch her head and shoulders and stroke her belly. No fear, no attempt to fly away. She preened my fingers and nails and hung out on my hands while I tried to type at the keyboard.

By the 4th day she was walking around my shoulders and pulling my hair. She would crawl in and out of my shirt and look for millet I placed in my shirt pocket.

She was a new bird.

I continued having hands on activity with her daily several times a day while giving her praise and treats. She would come out of her cage and fly to me to hang out willing on her own so I knew the training had worked.

After a few weeks I had to be away so I asked my grandmother to drop in my place daily to feed her and continue to have hands on with this new budgie. She responded well to my grandmother and was happy to step up, chew her glasses and try and steal her earrings and necklace and play so I was happy at the idea of re-homing her.

I was even more lucky it was my grandmother who wanted her.

After 4 years of terror this little bird went to live in a big house with lots of people coming and going all the time. She was the center of attention and loved being physical with everyone. She had a huge vocabulary of colorful words. (lots of really BAD COLORFUL words)

She lived to age 11 years old before she passed away from a tumor, but I'm sure those last 7 years with my grandmother were the very best years of her life.

Ken G's training helped this birds life and I'm glad I got to see it work.





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The thing is........

Any bird can be trained. You don't need to do Ken Globus' training on a new young bird.

I think us... us humans are the ones who need to be trained if we are going to successfully train a bird without Ken G's training.

You need to commit to the bird. You have to be there day after day spending and hour or more just getting the bird to respond to your voice.

You need the bird to be happy and excited you are there talking to it and acknowledging its movements and actions. Birds react to response from you and the excitement in your tone of voice.

If you have the birds attention then soon after you can work on the hands on training. This training is a slow process that YOU have to commit to day in day out.

But I find people easily give up training if they don't get the results they think their bird should give them after a weeks training.

If you don't train your bird every day because maybe your favorite show is on tv or you want to go out with friends the bird doesn't register the steady daily activity that training will teach it.

The new owner sees they've gotten nowhere and they give up discouraged when it was the owners fault for not following through daily.

However, if the bird doesn't get the hands on training this isn't bad.

There are millions of domestic pet birds in the world that are not hands on with their owners and that's okay because they still have good food, cage free time, music and attention from their parront that keep them busy and happy and healthy.

Its not the end of the world if your bird is not hand tame and that's something people have to accept also.







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I've just watched the videos and found him very outdated, forceful and not well thought through and to be called the bird whisperer is quite funny. He's awful. All he's doing is grabbing them and yanking them from their homes. All are clipped and all are having their feet held by him. It looks like they're staying on him because they want to but from what I can see he's just holding their toes. Personally, I'd rather put the time and effort in and build a relationship based on trust and respect than force and fear.

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The thing is........

Any bird can be trained. You don't need to do Ken Globus' training on a new young bird.

I think us... us humans are the ones who need to be trained if we are going to successfully train a bird without Ken G's training.

You need to commit to the bird. You have to be there day after day spending and hour or more just getting the bird to respond to your voice.

You need the bird to be happy and excited you are there talking to it and acknowledging its movements and actions. Birds react to response from you and the excitement in your tone of voice.

If you have the birds attention then soon after you can work on the hands on training. This training is a slow process that YOU have to commit to day in day out.

But I find people easily give up training if they don't get the results they think their bird should give them after a weeks training.

If you don't train your bird every day because maybe your favorite show is on tv or you want to go out with friends the bird doesn't register the steady daily activity that training will teach it.

The new owner sees they've gotten nowhere and they give up discouraged when it was the owners fault for not following through daily.

However, if the bird doesn't get the hands on training this isn't bad.

There are millions of domestic pet birds in the world that are not hands on with their owners and that's okay because they still have good food, cage free time, music and attention from their parront that keep them busy and happy and healthy.

Its not the end of the world if your bird is not hand tame and that's something people have to accept also.


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I tried the not training that is why I am where I am now. I have a large bird room and I let my birds out for a few hours, but when I have to get them back in the cage its battle. Now I have to catch them with a towel. They won't go back in for food or even when it gets dark. So you see why they need to be trained, otherwise what do you do?
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I tried the not training that is why I am where I am now. I have a large bird room and I let my birds out for a few hours, but when I have to get them back in the cage its battle. Now I have to catch them with a towel. They won't go back in for food or even when it gets dark. So you see why they need to be trained, otherwise what do you do?
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I have never needed to catch any of my birds and put them in their cage as it gets dark, they just seem to go to their cages as it gets darker.

Is there too much light in the room they are in? Turn on just a lamp and turn off the brighter overhead light. Turn the music or tv off if its in the room making it quieter.

I find if there is quiet in the room my birds always headed back to their cages right away. The cage is where they are safe.

You should get into the routine of putting them to bed every night the same time so they get use to this.

You shouldn't have to battle with them.

If its dark outside and you can't get them in the cage turn out all the lights in the room, you can easily grab a bird one at a time to put them in their cage. Partially close the door to the room, leave it open a crack and have a light on outside the room so you can see.

Your birds won't fly off in the dark.





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Well my parrotlet, named Star flies in a dark room. I let him out tonight at 5:30 it gets dark now at 8:00. He stayed on top of his cage I had to catch him with a towel, he flew around a bit before I could catch him. Any other ideas?
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Training of any kind of parrot is not a big deal now a days. Its too easy to train your parrot in few days for any sort of work. Too many training methods are available on internet. I also have some great training videos on website to help the people to how to train your parrot http://cuteparrots.com/category/training/

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Great to hear Parrot Zoo.
Please come and work you magic on Sophie.
I'll patch you up each day.
What a crook of ****.
Wild imagination from unqualified missleading people. This is the sort of rubbish Bird Tricks promote.
Using Positive Reinforcement Training Is the best way to train for a strong bond.
It is why you Buy DVD from people like Barbara Heidenreich.

We just had a member on another forum post links to three vids on Training your bird in a few days. God I could not watch them, wanted to throw up with such ****. They overwhelmed their bird and now it sits in the top corner of it's cage. It must be trained as it sits still now. And they have come back and said they are thinking they have not been working with it enough. Poor little bird. Needs a new home now.

These are the links that someone posted on that other forum.



http://www.knowyourparrot.com/ParrotTraining.html


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Clive I absolutely DETEST that guy. How anybody so deluded about bird care and training with little to no knowledge can feel the need to set up an educational channel I do not know. In one 'episode' about training budgies he said that they were the worlds smallest parrot...

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