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Dr. Susan Friedman meeting

I attended a meeting about behavior today. It was a presentation by Dr. Susan Friedman. It was very good.
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I couldn't digest it all. She will send an email of her power point presentation, so I should be able to go over it again later.

I did, however, come away with two new immediate ideas.

The first had to do specifically with Ashlynn. A few months ago I posted on here that I can't tell the difference between when Ashlynn is putting her head down because she wants me to pet her and when she is putting her head down because she wants me to leave her alone.

This must be really common with greys. I didn't actually discribe the way she moves her head when I was asking the question. Instead, I just said that I can't tell what my grey's signal is to leave her alone. Dr. Friedman responded that many people can't tell the difference between when they put their heads down for petting and when they put their heads down to indicate they want you to back off, soooooooooooooo, it must be a grey thing and she knew, even before I actually described the posture, what it looked like.

She suggested that I just consider any time she puts her head down as her signal to back off and shape that behavior until she is confident that I will leave her alone when she does it.

Then, I will need to shape a different posture that I can distinguish from that to indicate that she wants her head scratched. She said it could be something as simple as that she turns her head sideways instead of just putting it down.

I think I understand this and can do it. I'm going to give it a good try, anyway. I'll let you know how it goes.


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Very interesting, and it does make sense. I would love updates.

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That is interesting! I never knew. The greys I've seen have always snapped at me when they've put their heads down so I never quite understood. Kinda like cockatoos. They always do the thing where they really do seem to want scritches and they push themselves up the bars to you and then you go to touch them and they have your fingers taken off

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I know grey owners who say it is really easy to tell the difference between the back off head bow and the scratch me please head bow, but, seriously, I can't. I also know MANY owners who tell me they can't, either. Dr. Friedman said she personally can't see the difference, either, but she knows lots of people who can and lots of people who can't. I also know grey owners who swear that greys do this on purpose to lure unsuspecting strangers to them so they can bite them, lol. Personally, I think it is that the difference in the postures is hard to read, but, honestly, none of us can really know what goes on inside those heads.

I've never been bitten by a cockatoo, and I don't want to be!

This morning I was saying silly things to Ashlynn while I was feeding everyone, and she was giving me the evil eye. There is nothing in the bird world that looks more seiously disgusted with you than the grey "evil eye". It's not a leave me alone kind of thing. It is like the evil eye a mom gives her kids when they've embarrassed her beyond belief and they KNOW when she gets them alone life isn't going to be very good.

Grey's are VERY interesting, but, wow, they keep you on your toes!

I'll try to get a photo of that look some day, but with my photography skills, don't hold your breath.

DALLY and/or Daisy - and really lots of others of you great photographers - you need to have an opportunity to photograph some grey faces. They are sooooooooo expressive.

All the South American birds thought my silly actions were cause for celebration and joined in being silly with me.


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I will have a go if I ever get to take my camera to college. Arnold is so fascinating! He never gives me the evil eye though, more along the lines of the head tilt and dead on look where he's like "tell me a story?" haha!

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Tip. Cockatoos pin their eyes when they're gonna bite. Always watch. Mine pierced my lip! Bless her. She's so spoilt now with her new family. Cockatoos are too demanding when you have kids! I've never met a grey up close and personal but they've always facinated me. Especially 'Alex'. saw him on the telly. wow they're clever. i hope the posture thing works. being snapped at is noooo fun!

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Well, first I have to make my training plan and then actually carry it out. I would be able to make the plan ok, but my work is a mess right now, so I'm going to have to force myself to take the time to do this.


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