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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-11-2011, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
 
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Need advice with my conure...

I'm feeling really defeated right now. I have a 6 month old crimson bellied conure. When I first got her, she was about 9 weeks old and was sooo sweet. She LOVED to cuddle and be rubbed on her head and things were great. She also loved to cuddle in my shirt and it was soo cute. She'd fall asleep there. Well, soon after she came home, I found out I was pregnant (which was unexpected) and had horrible morning sickness and was SUPER sick. Obviously, I wasn't holding her as much as I had been for a couple of months,but she was still doing ok and still getting out some...she wasn't stuck in her cage all of the time, but her time out was definitely a lot less! I'm feeling a little better now, so I've been trying to hold her a lot more again. Within the last few weeks, she's been biting, which I was expecting since I've read about conures going through a nippy stage. But, now, all of a sudden she's not only biting, but she's not wanting me to rub her head or cuddle with her at all. It's making me so sad. I've been working with her lately, trying to make progress, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I'm so scared I've ruined her from the couple of months she didn't get held much when I was so sick. I miss the cuddly, sweet bird soo much. If I try to rub her head, she will dodge my hand or bite me. She's also flying off of me all of the time, too. She's suddenly also this week developed a liking for my husband...which I'm glad for, because i want her to be social, but she is flying off of my to try to get to him and wants nothing to do with me. My daughter can also handle her, but she won't stay on her very long. I'm working through the biting, and can deal with that, but the fact that she won't let me rub her head anymore and she doesn't want to cuddle with me is making me so sad. Have I ruined her? I am so scared she will never be cuddly again and it's all my fault because I didn't hold her or spend as much time with her while I was so sick in the beginning of my pregnancy. Do you think that working with her will bring that back at all? I"m so worried it won't. Any tips? She's potty trained for the most part, and wants to be held, but she just doesn't seem to want to do much when she's with me except climb on top of my head, which I won't let her do. She will go to most anyone, so she's not a mean bird...I just miss my sweet bird and fear that this is nothing but my fault. Maybe it's just the pregnancy hormones, I don't know...I need encouragement and advice.
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I do NOT think you "ruined" your bird's personality.
I do notice one thing about my Shira (green cheek), though. If I am in any way upset - it doesn't have to be with her, it could be for any reason - I do not attempt to handle Shira other than perhaps to transfer her on a portable perch if necessary. I abide by this same rule with my senegal and my grey.
I believe that they read me so well that they somehow know that I am upset, but, for some reason, they become very defensive if they know I am upset.
A dog is a great animal to cuddle when you are upset, but I find that it is very stressful for these three birds to have physical contact with me when I am upset.
If your crimson bellied conure realizes you are worried and upset, she may react in a worried and upset way toward you. If you are upset in any way, instead of trying to hold her, during those times, you might try clicker training or some other enjoyable way to interact with her from a bit farther away.
My other suggestion would be that perhaps she is going through a molt and has some pinnies remaining. She may need you to help "groom" her, but Jenny once posted about how she does that, and her method seemed more soothing to my birds than what I had tried previously.
Jenny said that she pinches off tiny pieces of sheath working from the outside of the feather in toward the body. I had gone the other direction. It really seemed to feel less painful to my birds when I went in the direction she suggested.


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I thought about molting but I haven't seen any pin feathers at all. Could she be molting and me not see them yet? Can their personalities change as they get older? Like, could she go from a cuddly bird to one that doesn't like to cuddle? Maybe it's just going to take a little time to get back to where we were since there was a break in how much she was handled...I just researched soo long and was trying soo hard to wait for the right bird that fit the personality I wanted. I got her from an excellent breeder...I think I'm just so upset because I want to have my cuddly little girl back. I've just tried talking to her a lot and being sweet to her to see if maybe that will help, too.
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it could be a teenager stage, where they act out, nip, scream and just make a brat of themselves.... but i have no experience with conures. but i know a lot of parrots go through teen stages. my male tiel is and so are my lovebirds



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Part of it, too, is she can probably sense the changes in you. Animals are very sensitive to these things; no one knows why. You're stressed, things have changed, her routine is different... so she's stressed. Give her time - patience, love, and persistence go a long way. She'll come around Just take a deep breath, open her cage, and sit next to her. Let her come to you. She'll get the hint, pick up on your calmness and positive energy, and relax herself.

At 6 months old, she's also going thru her teenage stage. Her hormones are fluctuating, she's going to be moody and hormonal - think teenage girl She's going to learn some independence, grow out of baby snuggles, and want to snuggle more on her terms as she learns how to be an independent, adult, mature bird. How much sleep does she get? Do you cover her cage? Birds need about 10 hours of sleep a day, but since she's hormonal 12+ might be better




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Thanks, Jenny. She will readily come to me. But she wont' let me really pet her much unless it's on her back...Oh, and she also tends to just be kind of a busy-body these days. Kinda like a hyper kid. lol She won't sit still. Will they calm down at all as they get older? I didn't know if parrots could be like puppies in that respect. As far as sleep, she definitely doesn't get 12 hours right now. I have her cage in our living room, but at night she goes into her sleep cage, which is in our room, and I do cover it. Although, when we get up in the mornings, she is awake and wanting to come out of her cage. I just hope that she will fluff up and let me rub her head again and cuddle in my shirt. It was the sweetest feeling and a little sad having a bird that goes from that to one that won't stop moving and won't cuddle. I really do hope it's just her teenage phase!!
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She may need to be tired before she is ready to cuddle. Shira is that way.
Some birds are more cuddly in the morning and others are more cuddly at night.


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Are you sure she is not molting? Maxx who is 6 months now has been molting the past 2 months, and is showing no signs of stopping. He can be really cranky if I touch one of his sensitive spots. Giving him a bath EVERY day has helped tremendously. It seems to soften the pinnies, and ease his molt.



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She could be molting, but I'm not seeing any evidence of it at this point...I just got done holding her for a bit, and she would let me rub her a little bit, but she was still really "busy" and didn't want me to rub her much. She did bite me a few times, but it's much better. Like I said...I can work through the biting. It's the not wanting to cuddle anymore that's harder for me to deal with. It's better that it has been, at least. I was hoping she would be sleepy like someone suggested and want to cuddle but at least she let me rub her a few times. She just wouldn't settle down enough for me to do it more than a couple of times. I will try again tomorrow evening when I am home and see how it goes. Thanks for the advice, everyone!
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I also think Shira is easier going now that she is a year and a half than she was a six months of age. I seem to recall a cranky stage in there. Many of my birds have gone through that at some point or another.


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Every green cheek and their cousins are molting right now. Just give her some time. Rub her head and I am sure you will find TONS of pinnies. They will be REAL cranky until they get over this. I know, I am experiencing the same thing. Maxx who can be a total angel one minute is a total bitch the next. Nipping, trying to bite, and trying to show who is boss. Next second he is cuddling and being the sweetest bird on earth. He is losing feathers left and right, tons of undergrowth, small soft feathers.'

This is common, just let her ride out. I don't know how long it lasts, Maxx has been molting for a few months now and now showing any sighs of letting up.



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Mine is a busy body too. He's always been. I find he does get more cuddly the more tired he is but then he gets cranky because he's tired. If he has pinnies he is cranky too. I think they do go through a difficult period. Babies are usually more cuddly I think. When they get older they still can be but it's more on their terms sometimes.
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My Dexter is always on and off, one minute he loves me and the next he wants nothing to do with me. Just persist and remain calm, I'm sure she will come back around for more fuss etc

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Solo my IRN is the exact same he is always busy and messing around a bit like a toddler them just when he's getting tired he's cuddly but then with in 5 mind he's grumpy and needs to go to be and he's molting at the moment to so that hardly helps but hey that's the way I love him

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it could be a teenager stage, where they act out, nip, scream and just make a brat of themselves
Yup -- we got our Nanday from a lady when she was about three years old (the bird, not the lady) and she's been through a number of changes throughout her "adolescence". She's a load of trouble, but she's also a real sweetie when she wants to be.

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PS: As I typed my initials just now, a certain conure who was SUPPOSEDLY locked in her cage suddenly lit on my shoulder and began screeching in my ear. (I've been told she doesn't like computers, so at least she's not attacking the keyboard!)

PPS: Krikkit says to tell you "Smooch smooch smooch."
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My parrotlet learned to let herself out if Iust shut the door and dont lock it. can give you a real shock sometimes if you arent ready. lol

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