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Senegal Parrot questions/concerns

A Senegal is one of the birds that I had previously researched and considered adding to my home and flock. My main concern was/is the fact that they are prone to become one person birds and can become jealous of others. People, birds, and even other pets. And miss placed aggression can become an issue. Well I found one needing a home, here is the ad.:

Searching for an experienced parrot caregiver interested in adopting our 10 year old Senegal Parrot, Oscar. A well socialized bird that is a clown and a sweet heart. Since the birth of our daughter, he has become prone to jealousy and displaced aggression. He needs a loving and patient owner that will help him return to his old self! He will need a cage, but does come with his favorite play stand. There is a small rehoming fee, call for details.

So my question is if I were to take in this bird would I be able to “fix” the problem? Are there ways to avoid the jealousy and miss placed aggression?

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Sounds like now that the baby is in the picture the bird isn't getting the attention it used to. The owners probably can't take the time to address the situation because they now have a baby which is their top priority. The same thing happens with dogs. They are doted on and spoiled and then when the baby comes they barely get a second look and people wonder why their pet has a bad attitude.

I think all parrots for the most part can become one person birds. It's in their nature. I think the key is to establish routine early and not to spoil the bird. You would have to meet the bird but I think it's fixable. They probably spent a lot of time with the bird and gave it lots of our of cage time but now all that's changed and the poor bird sits there in it's cage wondering why the heck no one bothers with him anymore.
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Any bird can be 'fixed' with love and patience. If you were to give him time I'm very sure that he would easily come around, being as he's been tame for so long. I think that because of the baby they haven't been able to give him the time that he needs and so if you were to have him you would have to work a little bit more to get him tame again. I'm sure you can do it if you're willing to

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He may react better in a home with a set number of 'owners' then one where a new baby is introduced. Then there's no 'new' person taking his attention. Mind you, it can be fixed, but as others have said it's very hard to do when you have a new baby to care for



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Thanks everyone. I have one person birds so that part is fine, it's the jealousy and miss placed aggression that concerns me. My p'let and GCC don't want to have anything to do with my son but don't bite me if he is near. And they don't seem to care when I spend time with the other birds. And I'm a sucker for birds in need.

I'm 46 so babies will not be a problem.

Jenny do you have any hands on experience with Senegals??

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Yes, I do. They are very sweet. I have raised quite a few - they are very snuggly and affectionate but as they get older they do distance some. We had one in the shop till she was over 1 year old She got very skittish, would no longer step up, but she would come over and let me rub her head and if I got someone to sit by her cage and be patient, she'd come over and nibble hair and let them scritch her. Before I sold her, she would climb out onto my shoulder to preen my hair and then sit on me, and I got her to do that for her new owner who was absolutely smitten by her shyness, but sweetness

I don't think in a normal scenario, they would get quite so shy but being in the pet shop with so many new people constantly poking about started it. They can definitely be shy around new people and slow to trust, but in my experience they're not quick to bite - they'd rather try to get away than bite, but if you don't know their body language and push them they will give you a nip. They can be one person birds and can be protective of their person as well.

But with time, patience, and building trust I think he would come around for you. I would visit him in his home, if possible, and see how he interacts with his owners before taking him on. If she's seeking an experienced bird owner, asking her that and explaining why will also probably increase her confidence that you know what you're doing. You can also consider a "trial period" as mean as it sounds - sign a written contract between you and the owner for 2 weeks, a month, etc. that if things don't work out the original owner will take the bird back.



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Thank you Jenny for your input. I appreciate all of you who share you knowledge and experience.

I don’t think being a one person bird would really be a problem. I just worry that if they out live me what would happen to them? So I need to keep reminding myself that once I’m out of the picture the bird(s) would eventually choose another person. If he became jealous and protective of me and I’m no longer there, problem solved.

I have a “contract” with Lea’s (p’let) previous owner that if for any reason I can’t keep Lea I must offer her the option to purchase her back.

I did this with a cat I re-homed, got her back, and plan on never parting with her again.

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You can ask the current owners about the "misplaced aggression". Specifics might help you determine if the bird is a match or not. I would also highly consider keeping the bird off of your shoulders for a good long while, or perhaps never allowing it there, depending on what this aggression is.
Birds tend to realize when their former favorite person is gone. They grieve, then they pick a new favorite. I doubt a ten-year-old senegal would outlive you, though, unless you expect to die young. I am fond of telling Roni that she has to "go out" with me unless she is going to start being nicer to other people. My kids also tell her they won't take her, but, seriously, I doubt she'll outlive me, and I'm older than you are, but if she does, she will adjust to someone new. She is great with my vet and with the people at the bird store. In fact, though she loves to lure my daughter, second son, and a few others over and then give them a nip, she has been very sweet with my oldest son since he had to move back in for a few months. (She is smart enough to know not to burn ALL of her bridges. )
I've heard a lot about senegals going after other birds, but Roni doesn't. She avoids other birds, but doesn't push herself into their space. She is fully flighted now, so she could make a pest of herself if she wanted to, but she doesn't. In fact, Joelle tried to go after Roni a couple of times last night and Roni actually fled.
I expected I would have to reclip her wings, but when they grew out this time she didn't even notice it for a very long time. When she finally realized she could fly, she took a few flights to kind of get her navigational skills back, and then settled down to barely flying again. Now, she only flies when she is startled, and, frankly, as strange at this is going to sound, I think it has improved her confidence to be able to fly off when she is afraid, thus resulting in a bird who actually bites less. If she would start to stalk other birds or people, she'd get clipped in a heartbeat, but, for now, I've decided to let her build up her confidence.


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Thank you Nanay. I feel the same about clipping, some birds are better with full flight some better clipped, for attitude and safety. I have emailed the owner but haven't heard back yet. He did include a name and number but I figured I would try emailing first.

About dying young..... several in my family, parents included, have. But If I have anything to do with it I won't.

You mentioned how you wanted a Dusky and got a Maxi and how I wanted a Maxi and got a Dusky. Didn't you say you wanted a Meyer's and got a Senegal? Because I was more interested in a Meyer's when I was researching them. In fact I almost got one but the owner decided she wanted someone that didn't work full time.

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Yes, actually I wanted an African meyers and a dusky pionus both, but I got a senegal and a Maximilian pionus because I fell in love with those two individual birds.


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I’ve decided not to get the Senegal, because………… I might be getting an IRN!! For details please see my new thread “IRN baby??”

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Fair enough.


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