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Unhappy Mirror Problems?

I remember reading something about birds sometimes getting aggressive when you get them mirror toys but I wasn't sure about this... I've noticed my tiel has been biting more (hard) and getting easily aggravated lately.. She spends a lot of time in front of her mirror toy, she barely pays attention to other toys. Honestly, I'm hoping this has something to do with her mirror and not her true colors shining through. I've had her since February 26th 2012. She was such a cuddle bug before, I don't know why she is acting this way now. Any advice?
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Definitely sounds like an issue with the mirror.
Birds can get agressive over a mirror because they think it's another bird and are defending their "mate" from you.
I would remove the mirror for a few weeks, maybe try putting it back in later and if she gives you the same response take it out for good.



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Definitely sounds like an issue with the mirror.
Birds can get agressive over a mirror because they think it's another bird and are defending their "mate" from you.
I would remove the mirror for a few weeks, maybe try putting it back in later and if she gives you the same response take it out for good.
Man... She is not going to like that. I'll try it and see what happens. Thank you for the quick response!
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No problem! She might not like it at first but it'll be best for your relationship with her. An agressive 'Tiel is not fun, especially if she is defending a mate that is just her reflection.
It's good to remove the mirror earlier rather than later as well because she could eventually start regurgitating to the mirror trying to feed it and if this gets excessive it could become a real problem.



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how old is she? i think you said around 6 months in your intro thread?


this could be due to molting or due to hitting the teenage phase. tiels hit both these around 6 months old and both will cause some attitude. but it will not stay, it gets better

also, how many hours of sleep does she get? minimum they should get is 8-10 hours, preferably 10 hours. if shes hormonal 12-14 hours will work for the long nights treatment, but i dont think thats the case here. it could be lack of sleep if she is not getting any at night.


i dont think its much of a mirror issue, i think its more her teen stage is setting in (which will eventually go away) and/or molting. molting happens once or twice a year so theyre cranky and itchy then, which is understandable being covered in itchy pins all day. if she is molting, try mist baths and if she lets you preen her, gently break open some pins, it will really help. you will know if you are doing it wrong if she squeaks at you!



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how old is she? i think you said around 6 months in your intro thread?


this could be due to molting or due to hitting the teenage phase. tiels hit both these around 6 months old and both will cause some attitude. but it will not stay, it gets better

also, how many hours of sleep does she get? minimum they should get is 8-10 hours, preferably 10 hours. if shes hormonal 12-14 hours will work for the long nights treatment, but i dont think thats the case here. it could be lack of sleep if she is not getting any at night.


i dont think its much of a mirror issue, i think its more her teen stage is setting in (which will eventually go away) and/or molting. molting happens once or twice a year so theyre cranky and itchy then, which is understandable being covered in itchy pins all day. if she is molting, try mist baths and if she lets you preen her, gently break open some pins, it will really help. you will know if you are doing it wrong if she squeaks at you!
I thought this may be the issue as well. She is about 6 months old now. I give her a mist bath 2 times a week (should I do more?) and she gets about 8-11 hours of sleep depending on my fiances work schedule (he uncovers her in the morning). She is not a big fan of scratches so I doubt she will let me preen her.. I'll still try the mirror thing, seeing that she spends an unusual amount of time with it, I'll use it as an "out of cage" toy only. I hope she grows out of this!
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if she is molting, a quick bath daily would be ideal, especially if you cant get the pins easily

if she is a female, the teen stage shouldnt be too bad. it usually isnt so nasty for females.

how do you know she is a girl or not?



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if she is molting, a quick bath daily would be ideal, especially if you cant get the pins easily

if she is a female, the teen stage shouldnt be too bad. it usually isnt so nasty for females.

how do you know she is a girl or not?
Welll I didn't get DNA testing done but she has new tail feathers growing in that have the typical female print on them (under her tail). I asked around and posted a picture on the talkcockatiels site and they all seemed to think she is a girl. I could be wrong!
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shes definately a girl if shes molting back in the same pattern. i was on talk cockatiels before, just recently left as its overwhelming there when you have a lot of every day stress.


molting makes tiels cranky. any bird really. but they tend to be a bit more nappy and they tend to be dustier. the first molt is usually the worst on you because you dont know what to expect, but its not bad. the attitude will go away.


if its the teen stage, it lasts a few months then goes away. females i find have a more laid back stable temperament. males tend to be hormonal off and on and they often have attitude from it their whole lives after they hit the teen stage. its not bad, but it can get annoying, but tiels are fairly gentle. they bite and let go. they dont hold on, even if they break skin so her nips shouldnt be too brutal. some tiels bite harder than others, some never bite. my tsuka has a nasty mood issue where he is moody almost every other day and he is really unpredictable. he is so sweet and affectionate and loves cuddles one moment but the next he will be trying to bite and will dive bomb my camera and bite my fingers hard. hes our bipolar bird lol but hes harmless for the most part as he doesnt latch on like the lovebirds do. dally on the other hand may "beak" but she never bites. ive never once even been nipped by her. but she is unusually placid even for a tiel.

extra baths will really help with her irritability with molting. if you have an aloe plant, you can squeeze some of the juice in the mist bottle and spray her with it, it will soothe her itchy skin and feathers. its normal for them to be cranky when molting. even miss gentle dally can be cranky where she may open her beak and sway her head and make some angry squeaks at me when molting lol

you can offer the mirror out of the cage, it could be a factor, though its not as likely. but it would not hurt to remove it. with the teen stage, it actually may help to remove it.



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It's also breeding season and that's affecting a lot of birds as well.
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6 months is a tad young though, so its not so likely, but shannon also brings up a good point



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Actually, I thought it was too young as well, but even my 3 month olds are mating even though they haven't yet laid an egg and some of my females are a bit more aggressive. Even the chicks I just weaned are getting in on it, I can't believe my birds . I'm starting to think my birds are a bit over sexed .
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try giving fake eggs and long nights. that knocked mine right out in combination with long nights. 3 months is far too young lol i have no more nesty problems from ANY of my flock at the moment... munch got her chance got it out of her system, and the rest have all cooled their jets under the long nights treatment for the most part, but the tiels got fake eggs which worked for them 3 months old however i believe is just juvenile playing behaviour... theyre trying to learn, but usually nothing will come of it, but best discourage it.

at 6 months i think it is more the teen stage and molting rather than breeding hormones.



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Yeah, I'm going to try the fake eggs with my cronic layers, so far I've tried everything else with them and nothings worked, so will see. I hope it works, cause I'm afraid she's going to breed herself to death. I think those two are a little too happy, lol.
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As soon as I read your question I thought to my self it must be her age and/or moulting. It's a rough time for them. Think of them like somebody who just turned 13, their head is all over the place with hormones! I was a right monster the moulting is also aggrivating. Like Casey said, a quick bath every day will certainly help. You'll get her back in no time

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