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So I figured I'd update you all on Rocky and his progress and hopefully remember to keep this thread going lol. his is going to be a long first post to get you all upto speed lol.

I have been working extra shifts recently so he hasn't seen me as much which I expected would put us back a bit however, when I got him out and did some training he was fine if not even better at doing what I asked.

My mom came up and asked him to step up and he just ignored her (normally he warns her off). As soon as I offered my arm however barely got to say step and he was right onto it! Ended up having to sit down and rest my arm on the back of the chair as he is fairly heavy and he refused to budge off my arm. Did some more training with him and started him on number, only 1 and 2 at the moment though. Then got him off my arm an hour later, and did some more training and refilling his nut forager up, asked him to step up again to put him back in his cage and again he was right away onto my arm.

I am currently training him to touch and hold my finger as some of you know, only trying this through the cage bars at the moment, he is getting much better at it, he doesn't get a reward if he does it with his beak open and I only have to tell him to be nice and he'll normally do it properly. Also I have noticed when he is his in cage and I am talking to him he sticks his foot out and tries to grab onto me, doesn't do this to anyone else, if I hold my finger out right away he holds onto it.




In my attempt to get him more socialised I managed to persuade a male friend to come round and spend some time with him, Rocky was already out his cage at the time, he took seeds off my friend no problem and only acked at him once (in fairness my friend was a bit wary and sort of waved the seed in his face), Rocky normally acks at my mom most times when she gives him a seed though he is getting better. Didn't push him though and my friend spent the rest of the time in the room, far away from him as possible as he's actually not very good with birds as he's never been round them lol. Rocky did play up at one point but with some stern words and me not backing down he behaved himself.



I would very much like to move him and bring him into my room for a fair few reasons to be honest, Im not keen on strangers coming round and seeing him, nor am I keen on him being introduced to people when I am not there as currently I am the only one who can read him, likewise he just isn't bonding to my family and bar my mom they aren't really trying - it's like the novelty has worn off as he's not bonding and talking like they'd hoped. We have recently had a few incidents where people have come round and I don't know why people think this ok but I wasn't there and they decided to poke their fingers in his cage, luckily for one he was at the back at my mom told my nan to take her fingers out the cage or he'll bite her (my nan really should know better but because Munchkin is so tame she just assumed Rocky is the same). The second person was a family friend, they turned round to talk to Rocky and suddenly went to touch him, luckily for them Rocky screamed at them rather than just biting which scared them enough into backing off. My main concern is if someone isn't there and he does bite - I would never blame Rocky for this as quite frankly people should have more common sense than to go putting their fingers into an animals cage that they do not know!
My other concern is family gatherings, if small children do this, also if some idiot opens his cage ( I am tempted to get a couple of padlocks and lock him in but this presents more problems to me and really I shouldn't have to lock my own Parrot in his cage in my own home because of idiots). Also he is in a high use area of the house so for gatherings etc there are going to be a lot of people constantly around his cage and going past him which I think will stress him out, he doesn't like it at the moment if theres more than two people near him.

I was thinking of putting a sign up by his cage just saying something like "My name is Rocky and I am a rescue Parrot, I don't mind you talking to me and may even copy noises to you but I do bite so please don't poke fingers into my cage, I am on a strict diet so please don't feed me anything or put things into my cage. Please don't open my cage doors as I only behave for my human and if I get out I will not listen to you and if my human is not with me when I am out I get stressed.
I don't like to be crowded and I'm not too keen on men, I have not yet been around children so I am not sure how I will react, my human says if I do any of the following then I am telling you to back off in the only way I know - if I have my beak open, if I raise my foot at you, if you hear me 'Ack' and if I flare my tail. If you would like to know more about me then please feel free to ask my human."

He is a lot happier with me around, and in my room he would be out a lot more than he currently can be, I can no longer have him out while I am eating because my brother complained he stole food from him (when I wasn't there) Rocky does not steal food when I am in the room, I only have to tell him to go back to his dish if he starts to wander, but because my brother complained I can't have him out at all when I am eating, he can't come out now when people are round even though he doesn't bother them providing they do what I say if they want to meet him - obviously he comes out when I have people round but because he won't listen to anyone he stays in his cage when I am not there now. In my room he'll have Munchkin to talk at all day whilst I am out currently he has the radio but he's not bothered by it at all. Plus in my room I have greater control over the situation. My mom is telling me I can't have him in my room as it's unhealthy which I do understand, they don't really want Munch in my room, however I am going to buy an air purifier and I do have my window open all night anyway as I've always done this. My room is a lot bigger than my old one when it was just me and the Munch.

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I think it's a good idea to make the sign and see how it goes. You should not have to put a padlock on his cage. My granddad I live with (not biological) got in touch with his real family last year. They all came over. I ended up slapping their son. They were all sat in the garden, Chalkie was recovering in his aviary and he got my hose, turned on the jet wash and blasted Chalkie off his perch. He then ruined all of my clothes and ran into our new conservatory with very expensive furniture and soaked it all. I hate people haha!

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I think it's a good idea to make the sign and see how it goes. You should not have to put a padlock on his cage. My granddad I live with (not biological) got in touch with his real family last year. They all came over. I ended up slapping their son. They were all sat in the garden, Chalkie was recovering in his aviary and he got my hose, turned on the jet wash and blasted Chalkie off his perch. He then ruined all of my clothes and ran into our new conservatory with very expensive furniture and soaked it all. I hate people haha!
Oh boy I HATE people like that. I would go mental if someone did that to my animals!
Last gathering we had was a bonfire night and I was hand-rearign 3 Budgies at the time, I did keep them out the way but obviously had to feed them through the night, I am lucky in that most people there were either not bothered (seen it all before with me hand-rearing something or other lol) or politely came over to ask me about it, there was a young child there (they've had chickens/ geese and turkeys from us) and he really wanted to see them so I fed them in front of him and his mom was there, I got the oldest one out for him as he's never handled small birds before and he very gentle and he enjoyed petting him and spending time with him, that I don't mind in the slightest, but when people come up to my birds and starting poking fingers in cages or trying to feed them, thats when I start to get annoyed.

Frequently used to tell people off for teasing the geese even threatened to let them out and let them have them if they carried on and they soon stopped!

Some people just have no respect for anything.
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Not at all. Those poor birds. I hate seeing chavs in two by two shouting and laughing at the parrots. There was a lady who was flying birds at te falconry centre as an experience. One of the female buzzards accidentally flew at her head. She is not an aggressive bird. That lady demanded that she never ever was to be shown in public again. So the poor bird is in a seclusion aviary. She's in her late twenties

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Not at all. Those poor birds. I hate seeing chavs in two by two shouting and laughing at the parrots. There was a lady who was flying birds at te falconry centre as an experience. One of the female buzzards accidentally flew at her head. She is not an aggressive bird. That lady demanded that she never ever was to be shown in public again. So the poor bird is in a seclusion aviary. She's in her late twenties
Two by Two needs to be shut down from selling animals. The amount of times I have been in there and heard people tell their children I'll buy you one for your bday/ xmas/ if your good etc, makes my blood boil. The round cages they sell in there need to be demolished. They can't sex any of the birds and the staff are quite frankly rude and obnoxious!

Some people are so up themselves, if people said that about Munchkin he'd be confined to his cage, Rockys flown at our heads on occassion when he's misjudged. I frequently have someone in the aviary dive bombing me
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When I was in two by two once with Jack a little kid younger than 8 pointed at the grey in there and said to the lady behind the till I WANT THE GREY ONE and his parents got the credit card out and took it. They said oh it's his birthday and he wanted a bird! So they forked out 200 and something for a cage and 895 for a bird. They didn't bother with toys and bought that horrid food. Urgh

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When I was in two by two once with Jack a little kid younger than 8 pointed at the grey in there and said to the lady behind the till I WANT THE GREY ONE and his parents got the credit card out and took it. They said oh it's his birthday and he wanted a bird! So they forked out 200 and something for a cage and 895 for a bird. They didn't bother with toys and bought that horrid food. Urgh
I'd have had to have said something.

Couple of years back they had two princess of wales in there and the staff couldn't answer any questions about them so I butt in and answered the ladies questions correcting the bull the staff had previously told her and promptly told her to buy from a breeder and told her where to go to find one. Staff weren't impressed but they lady was!
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They had loads of sun conures in there once and they hadn't a clue about those either. Also. When I got my turtle yesterday from there (I dont buy from there but I just fell for him) I asked what they were because I hadn't seen them before. The guy said musks and yellow bellies. They certainly were night. At first they were presumed false map turtles but now I've done loads of asking he is a Ouachita map turtle. They have Tropical turtle 26 on the tank. People will buy them (ESP yellow bellies and red eared) thinking they're musks or something and they will grow huge! Urgg

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My neighbours used to shoot pellets at my aviary.
The police didnt help.
But the snapping of the gun in my rage did!!!
There was a place in Leeds sold big parrots and puppies from farms.
They're only allowed to sell accessories now. No livestock.
All pet shops should be like my local one.
Parrots come with books, toys, large cage, food, free advice.

Training should be compulsory at these places.

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Totally forgot to update this, I am terrible keeping these things going lol.

Anyway, Have bought Rocky one of those safety perches with the plastic inbetween the handle and the perch to try and get him handleable by other people. Slow going at the moment as he hates it and will only step one foot up lol.

He lunged for my mom the other day when she walked past him, he was in a foul mood anyway as I had told him off previously for stealing some paper and shredding it and when I asked him to leave it he wouldn't so I warned him with my hand up like they would lift their foot to warn, and he bluff lunged me so I 'Acked' at him and he stopped and eventually backed off. My mom was giong past his cage and twice he went for her, she then got him to purr and went to give him his seed and he lunged and snatched it off her, so I stood up and went over and told him to calm down and step up onto my arm, it took him a couple of minutes but once he realised I wasn't going to back down till he did what I asked he stepped up and was fine with me and my mom then on in. Like a naughty child constantly trying to bend the rules lol.

I only wish I knew more of his background before he was taken in as I would probably understand some of his behaviours better.

I am trying to find his breeder but his leg ring isn't very helpful, have asked on the parrot society forum but no responce yet.

On another note went shopping for the birds today as you do, aswell as his normal fruit and veg I managed to find some shelled pine nuts as he doesn't seem to crack the shell himself, and some pecan nuts to try him with. Got his soaked pulses soaking which I will cook up for him tomorrow when I do the veg for the birds.
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