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Blue indian ringneck hand feeding issue

Hey I have got a a blue INR almost 2 months old.The problem with this guy is he was raised by its parents and at 1 and half months was removed from the nest and I adopted him. Now he has never has never been around humans as he was always in the nest . . . so he's scared of me . . . so after few days he will be fine right ?
Also I tried hand feeding it . . my first time :/ [actually the breeder taught me how to make the formula and feed it to the bird . . but he taught me on a tamed 2 month old jenday conure who was used to humans . . . but my IRN is NOT !!]

so he doesnt understand I am feeding it . . . He ate little . . .not much . . .What should I do ?

All I know is that he is sleeping on half filled crop . .may not be even half filled . . crop is showing a minor bulge . . .

What should I do ?
I am taking him to a vet soon.
Its been just 1 day since he came to my place . . .

He's healthy . . thats what I think . .
I have attached some pics of him . .

Please also advice how many feeding/day . . .breeder said 3 . . .
Also he didnt tell me much about weaning process but said I should give some corn after 15 days . . .

Please help me out . . .
ps:I dont know the gender . . .but I will call him he for time being . . .

EDIT : Just a while back I feeded him again and he had lots [i.e.he actually ate the formula . . ] . . .now may be he's starting to learn the sad truth that his parents aint gonna come feed him
I hope I am giving him all love he needs right now ...
Any tips to gain his trust will be excellent !!





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I've never seen a baby with that little feathers at that age, he has his flights... He looks plucked in places. IRN are extremely fearful birds in general and at that age he is going to be very hard to hand feed as he won't take it off you much, so he may choke. I pull my babies at 2 weeks so they're still very young. I'm almost certain that bird doesn't look right though... It has really long flight feathers but nothing much else? Hmmm.

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his head looks a little bald, and the tips of his wings
its good he is taking the formula from you, that shows some trust

hopefully he will warm up to you!


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I agree, he looks majorly plucked in some areas... it's really weird to see his super long flights while the rest of him is just short pins.



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The parents may have been plucking it.
He will take formula when hungry. Just keep him warm.
Keep feeding on time when you've been told to.
Give him a clean with a warm cloth when done.
Make sure formula is at a good temperature before feeding
The vet might be a good idea but only if he is a proper avian vet.
The vet I saw was used to feeding pidgeons and blackbirds.
Not psittacines!

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But is it bad that his parents plucked him ?
Is he going to have behavioural problems ?

You guys have scared me . . .

Also eating formula by lots I meant he had much more than he did on the his last feeding session . . .

What is his age according to you ?
The breeder said he is almost 2 months . .
Please pray to god he likes me . .
I really love this guy
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He will come around, do you have him in a brooder?
Also feed til he doesn't take anymore and his crop is full.
What formula are you feeding?
Before the next feed you must wait til his crop is empty or you risk sour crop.
He will not develop a behavioural problem through it.
He is young. If you have a cuddly toy spare preferably with short fur put it in with him.
It'll give him something to snuggle to.
He needs a lot of love.
I understand what you're going through.
I had to hand rear in an emergency and had no idea what I was doing but people on a forum were very helpful.
Shannon and Daisy ( Catalinadee) both hand rear.
The basics are the same bird to bird.
We're all here for you and hopefully Kate will see this post.
She has raised IRN.
Don't be scared. You can do this.
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didnt mean to scare you!!

keep us updated! we will try to help in any way possible!
just make sure he is warm and stick to the breeders instructions!
maybe even go back and make the breeder show how to hand feed on the IRN instead of a conure!


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Also give him something better to stand on, like a towel or something, to give his legs the support they need so he does not splay. I'm looking at the one picture and his leg is way out to the side. Like the others said, keep him warm, and I'm sure he will want more food. When I raised wild birds, we had to keep the temperature warm to keep them active and wanting to take food. Colder temperatures, the birds hunker down, and not want food.



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I've hand fed and 2 were IRN's. He does look plucked but will be just fine. Like others have said make sure to keep him warm with a heating pad or a heat light. Also, like someone said, put some bedding or a towel under him. Feed three times a day, but spend time with him after you feed so he can get used to you.

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Well first off welcome to the forum. I am going to go step by step so forgive me if some of the information is a repeat of whats already been posted.

He needs to be in a brooder and kept around 90 degrees F, keep an eye on him to make sure its not too warm for him, if it is his mouth will be open and he will be panting. You can setup a brooder pretty easy, I have insrtuction on my website and I'll post a link at the bottem of this post.

He will probably be afraid of you for at least a week maybe a bit longer. Since he was pulled so late he is also unsure of the forumla since he's never had it before. I pull my chicks at 5 -7 days old. If you can't get alot of forumla down at once just feed more often, just make sure his crop is empting inbetween feedings. The water should be heated to 120 degrees F, then the formula mixed and cooled to around 105 degrees F. Never feed over 110 degrees F. Also what are you using to feed, spoon syringe or pipette? The amount of feedings a day will depend on how fast his crop is empiting. I have some charts on my website as well.

At this point you don't need to worry about weaning, cause your chicks not near that stage yet.

And for taming just talk to and pet it as much as possible.
Here's a link to my Guide to raising chicks and ask all the questions you want .

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He will come around, do you have him in a brooder?
Also feed til he doesn't take anymore and his crop is full.
What formula are you feeding?
Before the next feed you must wait til his crop is empty or you risk sour crop.
He will not develop a behavioural problem through it.
He is young. If you have a cuddly toy spare preferably with short fur put it in with him.
It'll give him something to snuggle to.
He needs a lot of love.
I understand what you're going through.
I had to hand rear in an emergency and had no idea what I was doing but people on a forum were very helpful.
Shannon and Daisy ( Catalinadee) both hand rear.
The basics are the same bird to bird.
We're all here for you and hopefully Kate will see this post.
She has raised IRN.
Don't be scared. You can do this.

I don't have a brooder . . . the breeder said he's old enough and doesn't need that much protection from cold. . . I just got a lamp covering half of the box . .so if he feels very hot he can move to a cold place . . .

Also I have noticed he always runs and trys to hide . . thats obvious but I am very scared if he can really stand . . .he stands for like 2-3 mins to look for a place to hide and dashes to a corner and tries to hide his face . . .as you can see in the pics . .

Right now he ate again . . .He's eating very little but its an improvement . . .
I am planning to give him food every 3-4 hours so that he can relate my hands to food quickly . . .

Any tips will be appreciated !!
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UPDATE:

My budgie helped my blue IRN get over me . . . some step up ladders and handshake by my budgie got him used to me . .
The IRN was begging for food to my budgie . . .
I fed it afterwards and it got this big sac of food below its neck !!

I am so happy . . .

But the little guy is scared of my hands . . maybe i hold him too tightly . . .so now I am picking him with a towel so that he wont get scared when i bring my hand to scratch his head.

Also after feeding it . . . it made small noises to my budgie . . . they were a little hoarse you know . .like breaking of voice kinda . . maybe little bit food went into its lungs
He will be fine right ?

Should I take him to the vet asap ?
I am taking him after 1 day . . .
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take him to the vet asap if you are worried

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I am sorry I cannot help you... The sac of food on his neck is a full crop... That is good... But if he aspirated any food into his lungs, that is a life threatening situation.. And I have no idea how you would know if he did or not... If you think he did then he needs to go to the vet as soon as possible... Good luck I hope he is ok.
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Hand feed the bird with the syringe on your right side going into the left side of the beak and avoid it going anywhere near its lungs.

Don't use a towel, it's a baby and needs to be socialised. If you don't socialise it now it won't like your hands at all in the future

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he didnt get anything in his lungs . . he fine . . had a massive improvement . . now he doesnt get scared of me except my hands . . I dont want to touch him and scare him further . . He is constantly harassing my budgie for food or something I dont know . .Right now I am trying to gain his trust by singing new Linkin Park songs
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If he will eat them you can also try offering him bits of food with your fingers... Soft things like birdie bread crumbs... Soft fruits and or veggies... ( assuming he is old enough to start trying real foods )
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Girls are right, dont be afraid to handle him with your hands, he needs to learn to like human hands now, or he wont in the future. I;m not saying be rough with him, but like gently maybe pick him up in the towel, then slowly transfer him into your hands, pet him gently, pretend to preen him with your hands like his parents would... etc.



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I agree with Camille. Pick him up with a towel then "preen" him very slowly and gently to get him used to hands. You're doing a great job. :O) I think the noises he was making after your budgie fed him were noises of contentment. :O)

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