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This is about Teak, my masked lovebird. I don't mean to sound like a downer, but I seriously feel like giving up. I've had Teak for 9 MONTHS and she makes absolutely NO PROGRESS. I've tried everything I know. But still every time I walk buy she hops to the other side and clings on for dear life until I'm completely out of sight. She's seriously UNRESPONSIVE to everything. The only thing I can do that's worked open the roof of the cage (She's afraid of the door), let her crawl out, I offer my hand to step up, she RUNS LIKE A CHICKEN WITH IT'S HEAD CUT OFF, I finally calm her down enough to step up, I put her on my shoulder, she relaxes alittle, but get this... SHE ONLY LIKES ME IF I'M PLAYING ANGRY BIRDS (And I have to have the sound on) If not, she tears into me. This is so weird and I don't understand it, but really, it's something I noticed. Then, she'll climb onto my head by herself and if I stop playing the game SHE RIPS MY HAIR OUT. For this one, I'm not sure if this is her way of preening or if she is ticked. When I can finally get her down off me, I try to gently place her back in her cage and she unacceptably darts for the cage. I know this is long, weird and alittle unnecessary, but this is the only way I can handle her. I don't know what to do with her. I swear, I'm really not trying to scare her but she's even worse in her cage. She's just out of control. Can someone please help me? This would be alot easier if she would just step up...

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What methods have you tried? I'm sorry it's been hard for you. Not every bird likes to be handled sadly

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Thank you for your compassion. So far with Teak, I've tried, to be specific, the plain "Step Up" (Failed), the basic clicker to step up (Failed), the "Click and leave" method (Failed), Just plainly offering millet through the bars (Failed), encouraging her to come with gentle, soothing talk (Failed), placing her on me then trying to praise her (Failed), showing her I'm the one who will feed her (Failed) Target training (Well, let's shake it up a bit, Unsuccessful). Is there anything I missed that I could do to help her. She's been neglected and unloved and unhandled for 6 years and pasted down from 5 different families. Like I said earlier, I've had her for 9 months and trust me, I love her and she's not going anywhere, but I can't let her continue to act this way
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Looks like you have done alot to help her good for you!!

Some birds just hate being handled...
Maybe you could find her a friend since she doesn't take to humans much.

But beware not all birds get along. But even if they were in separate cages they would probably be just as happy.


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So if Teak doesn't like to be handled, what can I do with her? I can't get her a friend, I have 9 animals already But she does talk with my budgie sometimes, is that good?
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Well the fact you have a budgie is a good start!
Maybe moving their cages close together and watching their behavior?

Lovebirds can be viscous to other birds, if putting the cages close together, make sure there is enough room between the cages so your lovie won't grab and bite at the budgies toes.

I'm sure your lovie will be happy with another bird around.

Does she have any destructible toys? Or toys she can just demolish?
That usually keep them busy!!


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I do take them out. My budgie Beck is still slightly untamed but easy to handle so I let them play together sometimes. Teak is 6 years old, and Beck is about 2 so Teak has the right to claim "Alpha" so she will try to fight Beck. For example, when Beck tries to preen her, she makes a gurgly noise and tries to pick a fight. Or when Beck takes her spot she'll shoo him away. I don't take them out together very often because when Teak tries to show her dominance over Beck I have to break it up, then she gets mad a human approached her and tries to take it out on Beck annnnd the one who walked over. So is there a way to get her to behave at all? She seems to act rebellious.... oh, and yes, she has many toys to take it out on, but she only touches one loud bell toy
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If your lovie enjoys another birds company you could have them in the same cage. I have three together! But if another bird comes anywhere near them then I can't trust them one bit!

I have only been skim reading, but is she clipped? Most of my birds that I can handle are ex breeder birds

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You need to move her from her cage, preferably to a room with no distractions.
Then negative reinforcement. Walk near her til she gets agitated.
Then stand for a minute. Then when she settles, click and walk away.
Repeat getting nearer everytime.
If she flies off, you may need to get her clipped.
It took a while to get my IRN tamed up.
Good luck.
Read taming Bob thread and look up negative reinforcement on you tube for help.

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Yes. Teak is clipped. When I take her out and try to handle her, I always put the cage out of sight from her since she appears to have a horrible attachment to her cage. Now I've tried the click and leave exercise with her before, but she's very out of control and won't hold still and screams to contact my budgie, no matter where we are (I live in a very small house). If there is a way I can get her to settle down, maybe the exercise would be more effective? I'm sorry, I've tried everything I know, and I'm just trying to get little details to make it follow through with her But I appreciate you trying to help with my crazy lovebird
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Try the bathroom! Just put the seat down on the toilet so there is no water that could cause possible harm negative re-enforcement works brilliant with many animals, I'm sure over time she will come around. I had two aviary bred, breeder peach face lovebirds and they both turned out to be some of the tamest birds I have had. It's odd their babies aren't anywhere near as tame as they were handled a lot!

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He bathroom should work nicely as daisy said.

I do recommend covering the mirror with a blanket if possible though. I know my GCC has had a few spills into the mirror thinking it was another room back there. Haha

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Alright. I'll try that and check in later
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The same. I'll just keep trying that and maybe, she might catch on
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Hey, I know this is for a tiel forum (sister forum to this one so it's allowed), but this training method applies to all birds.

Taming and Bonding: http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=22073
Food Bribery: http://talkcockatiels.com/showthread.php?t=28661

I totally understand where you are coming from. My boy Taz is incredibly fearful of people; we were hoping he'd come around after a while, but we've had him 8 months now and he is still just as scared as he was when we got him. He was 2 years old when I picked him up and the woman told me that he was very friendly and that his fearfulness was not normal. Obviously she was lying, but I wouldn't change bringing him home even if I had known (the bird was also supposed to be a girl, mind you). I think with some work he'd be more easily handled, but I haven't had the time to train him. One thing I do know is that away from the flock and the cage, he is much more easy to hold and interact with. But as soon as I walk back to the room with the other birds he will take off to get to them. Because of his behavior, we have to keep him clipped..if we leave him flighted he is just too difficult to catch.

Anyway, lperry's taming advice has worked for many many people so it is likely that it may very well work for you. But you've always got to keep in mind that each bird has its own mindset and is different. Some will never like to be handled, but some have great potential and you may find yourself surprised.

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EXACTLY!! EXACTLY WHERE I'M COMING FROM! They said she was trained but that was a load of garbage. Here's why I took her when I saw her, here's her story... I got her sometime in November, 2011. Now, I read about how if a bird is neglected or ignored, they can get very, fearful or mean. I just learned Teak's true story about a while ago. So, here's Teaky's story: (I can't remember their names) 1st, as a young birdy, a man bought her and called her "Pearl" (Although she's a masked lovebird and practically has no white on her!), then Mr. Man got a girlfriend who hated birds, so he got rid of "Pearl". Man gave her to Mr. Radio DJ, who kept her for a while, then moved to an apartment that didn't accept pets. So, Pearl was given to a young man about to start college, who brought her home to his family, and kept her for a bit, then he and his siblings left for college and left Pearl in the care of his aging parents. Young Man's parents had to work and couldn't care for Pearl, so they called me to take her. She was so wild and fearful when I saw her, screeching in fear. A dirty cage, no water dish or cuttlebone, perches covered in poop, she was a rescue! I couldn't leave her there! I love Teak and I'm so sorry she didn't have anyone to love for 6 years

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Well, I can say that Taz is starting to come around..so don't give up hope. I haven't.

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