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So, here's the update on Teak. Surprisingly, Teak appears to have gotten more meaner and VERY stubborn. I didn't even take her out. I was experimenting on more ways to win her trust, but she's just too pig-headed. I decided to just sit with Teak and made absolutely no progress. I sat down and played Sims for 2 hours while Teak was in the most uncomfortable position I've seen for a small bird, staying away from me. I have a flat wooden block on the side I was sitting at, one of her favorite places, and was hoping she would come for that, but she didn't. She hung in this position the whole 2 hours: Back against cage bars, right foot hanging on the ceiling, left foot on the wall, (Similar to the splits, but at an angle). I tried to wait her out and she fell 5 times, but no matter how uncomfortable that was, she's too stubborn and she just is way too paranoid to come sit on her flat. The cage wasn't even that close to me. She just acts way too paranoid in that cage. I think she has some kind of a bad thing with that cage, and really, honestly, everything. Like I said earlier, the only thing she loves in Angry Birds
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Birds can be very stubborn. But they can't help being fearful it could take you a very very long time to make progress, and even then you might not. I guess it's the chances we take when we get our fids

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She's just settling into her new home. Everything is new and scary and there is a big pink monster thing that comes and sits near her and changes her food and water. It could take months, years even for her to tame down completely and trust you. I would try waiting till she''s not scared when you come near the cage. Just sit near the cage and talk to her in a soothing voice, maybe read her a story or play some soft music.
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Thank you for your suggestions, but she won't accept me at all to try and relax her. I've had Teak for 10 months and have tried just about everything you can think of. Including the calm down then praise but I can stand there for 3 hours at a good distance away from her and she'll run around slamming into everything. I'm really not exaggerating either. She takes nothing. The only thing she's done is scream her head off, be violent, stubborn, fearful and have downright unacceptable behavior. I'm not saying this like I'm giving up hope but she's out of control

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Did u try towelling?
It seems mean but may help.
Catch her up in a towel.
Hold her firmly with her head poking out.
Sit with her layed on her back in the towel.
Just speak to her quietly for 5 minutes.
Try rubbing her head.
Then let her go.
You need to repeat this everyday.

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what kind of bird is she?
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I believe she's a masked lovebird? Correct me if I'm wrong. Lovebirds can be double stubborn!

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Yep. Don't I know it . She is a Masked lovebird. Know you, actually, I haven't tried toweling. It sounds simple enough. In past experiences, when I took her out, after I had to chase her around a bit, she would stay on my hand for a long time, but that's it, she'd bite and flap like crazy and scream but when I tried to praise her (I tried many forms of praise) she wouldn't go along with it. Now, when toweling, do I keep her low to hear my heartbeat? I read of you allow a bird to the highest point, it's a dominance thing. Is that true?

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I would keep her in the towel on your lap.
Then put her back.
Another member Jodeg, had trouble with her parrotlet and toweling helped.
I believe its reserved for the most stubborn birds!

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Then maybe it would work
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Yep. Don't I know it . She is a Masked lovebird. Know you, actually, I haven't tried toweling. It sounds simple enough. In past experiences, when I took her out, after I had to chase her around a bit, she would stay on my hand for a long time, but that's it, she'd bite and flap like crazy and scream but when I tried to praise her (I tried many forms of praise) she wouldn't go along with it. Now, when toweling, do I keep her low to hear my heartbeat? I read of you allow a bird to the highest point, it's a dominance thing. Is that true?
no, it's not true. The people who think that it is a "dominance thing" have spent too much time with dogs and not enough time with birds. With dogs, they live in packs and have a very obvious pecking order. You have to be the boss.
With birds, it's different, and much more complicated. They don't have a structured hierarchy like dogs (or at least not what we would call structured). There may be a few who watch out at the highest points, but not an actual alpha male. They rather work as one to find the best food and water, like one huge animal made up of thousands. If there was a pecking order (pun intended) then finding it would be impossible. They do fight in the wild occasionally, but not over who is the best.
You see, all of our parrots: our linnie and my budgie especially - have been allowed on our heads or higher. Did they turn into brats? NO!!! They remained as loyal and devoted companions as before. Being higher didn't change them. They feel more secure when up high.
It's important not to "own" your birds, nor let them "own" you - you just need to see them as equals.

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With larger birds, its best not to let them near your face due to the damage they can do.
I think this is why you don't let them high up.

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Yup. If you have a macaw on your shoulder and it doesn't like something it's gunna bite you on the face or ears or even the eyes! A budgie can't rip your face up

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Actually, I don't own a dog . I've just never had a neglected bird before. But, I have noticed something about her around my head, if I allow her on my shoulder or my head, every time she will rip my hair out. It's quite painful the way she does it. Or she'll try to rip off my glasses. But, actually, that one's quite cute
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