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i have had my african grey for just over a year and i just cant get her tame . one minute she will let you tickle her head and then she will spin round and bite you. she doesnt speak but she does whisper "pretty" into her mirror. she is in the lounge with us all the time and gets spoken to all the time. I love her so much but feel she would be so much happier if she would be a good girl . any advice would be great . thanks in advance.
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Welcome to talk parrots. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

I have moved your post, not because there was anything wrong with it but because I think since most of your questions are about training and bonding then it would get better replies in this section.

A few other details may help such as how old is your grey, how long does she sleep at night and do you cover the cage at all, is there a particular thing other than tickling which sets off the biting, how many hours interaction does she get with people daily, how often does she come out to play and does she have many toys (what type)?

No doubt other members may have more questions but if you can answer these they may be able to help you better

I'm afraid I can't help personally in this area but I'm sure someone will be long shortly.

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she is ten now. This is what makes me think am i fighting a losing battle is she stuck in her ways. She gets eleven hours sleep of covered up bed time a night. she bites if you go anywhere near her cage or the curtains at the side of her cage. I imagine they are all hers. But it makes it very hard to tame her as she is out all day and plays ontop of her cage. she has toys but i will be shopping first thing in the morning for some wooden ones after reading on here. But we was told that she hates new toys .
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Have you tried target training? I think it is a fantastic way of working with the bird, rather than forcing it. Just because she is 10 doesn't mean she is workable! Birds are extremely intelligent animals, she just needs to become more comfortable around you welcome to the forum by the way!

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please could you tell me how i find out more about target training. i am willing to try anything as i will not give up on her.
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I think Kate will be your best bet for this, I think she's poorly at the moment but she will have some good input

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You could try a google search in the mean time

I have had a brief flirt with clicker training but not target training so can't help myself I'm afraid.

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Target training is not hard, its basically the same as clicker training, but with a small stick "target" (mine was a chopstick with bright coloured electrical tape on the end) the premise is first you get to know what your bird REALLY likes. Duke, my hybrid when I got him was 6, and cage possessive as all get out. Duke LOVES a sunflower seed. Now what you have to do first, is get the bird used to touching/looking at the target. Put the stick by the bird, or by the bars of the cage. If she even looks at it without attacking it, give her a treat. Repeat the process, and tell her to touch, moving it closer. When she touches it with her beak WITHOUT aggression, give her a treat and tell her good girl. She has to learn the target is a friendly object, and that it means good things.

Once you have her touching it with her beak, try moving it. Like above her head, or lower than her feet. Again, make small changes, nothing too big at once. Ask her again, with TOUCH or TARGET ("cue" words) the bridge will be the click sound, and the reward is the treat/praise. Remember, repeat the request until you get what you want. Calmly, and in a not forceful, but not cajoling way. Make it clear to her what you want without frightening her. If she refuses to do what you ask, leave after three tries and do it again later. She has to learn she has limited tries to behave herself for the treat reward.

So remember, when training, CUE her, (TOUCH, and move the target to her, or where you want her to go) BRIDGE her ONLY for the correct behaviour, (the click sound from the clicker or snap lid works well) and REWARD her, (only if she's done it right). Some of these big guys I find also do really well on this because its a cognitive test, and also gives them a bit of structure to their lives.



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Hi.
No bird is too old to be tamed.
Can you get her in a carrier?
This is one of the most important things to teach a parrot.
Put the carrier next to her cage and let her get used to it.
Also invest in a clicker.
If she shows interest in the carrier then give her a click and a treat.
These treats must be removed from her everyday diet.
You need the carrier to remove her from her cage area to a quiet room with no distractions.
Try reading my thread taming Bob in the taming forum.
When you need more help I can give you more pointers.
The Taming Bob thread badly needs updating but he will step up now.
good luck and keep us posted.
It sounds like she is biting to show dominance over her area.

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Target training is basically the first step in clicker training... Once you've got targeting down pat, you can teach your bird anything...
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I would say clicking should come before target training, if you're going to use a clicker... they need to associate the click with a reward first

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I would say clicking should come before target training, if you're going to use a clicker... they need to associate the click with a reward first
Personally I agree with Daisy... The first step ( after finding the favorite treat of course ) is to teach click and treat... You can use a dish just inside the cage or your fingers if the bird will accept a treat from you... Walk up.. Click and drop the treat in the dish or hand it to the bird...say good bird and walk away... Repeat as often as you want... Walk up click treat walk away... Then move on to target training.
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i have just had the best christmas ever. thanks so much to everyones help on here we are making progress fast. diva now know what the clicker means. i have changed my lounge around and my chair is now next to her cage so she is now used to me being next to her at all times and she evens leans on her perch to reach for a tickle on the top of her head. I am taking things slow but i cant get over how well my baby is doing, she is even sleeping better at night. thankyou to everyone that has given their advice i have listened to each and everyone of you. I didnt want to give up on her and so glad that i tried this site now as things are really looking good. At long last i can see a true frienship forming between me and my feather friend happy new year everyone
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