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My lovebird has been VERY bitey and has drawn blood multiple times. She usually bites when I'm interrupting something she's doing such as trying to jump off the table, chew my keyboard, eating from the trashcan, being on my shoulder/trying to get on my shoulder, sleeping uncomfortably(for me) in my shirt, etc. I've tried ignoring it, which is *very* painful, and doesn't seem to stop her biting, or pushing into her beak - she simply walks backward along with my finger or bites harder, or blowing into her face, or putting her back into her cage. There's not much I can distract her with seeing as she never plays with her toys or anything else for that matter. I also heard that I could distract her by starting small training sessions every time she bites, but I dont want her to think that every time she bites, she'll get to have treats. I've tried giving her a foraging box to forage in and it kept her busy for a bit, but as soon as she's finished with it she went straight back to doing any of the following I've listed above. The one tactic I havent tried is putting something bitter on my finger but I don't think she'd be able to taste it if she only used her beak. But even if it did decrease her biting, she'd still feel bitter about me. I can really use all the help/advice I can get. Thank you!
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I am not good with this! But know we have discussed this at the Parrot workshops I have been to. I know it is hard to remember not to reinforce such behavior.
Could you ask on GoodbirdGroup and see where Barbara Heidenreich points you.
I know in normal situation you are meant to redirect them by clicker or treats to lift the head so they step up without the bite.
But your situation is different as she takes to bitting any time you try to move her or stop her from doing something.
It will be interesting to see what others have to say.


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Tried the floor method yet?

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One of two: grab beak and yell no. Or as above, take the bird and put on floor and ignore. Worked well for both my budgies and GCC.

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Do the floor.
Biting is not acceptable and you can't ignore all bad behaviour.
Say no loudly and put her on the floor and turn your back.
Ignore for about 2 minutes.
Then pick up and pyt somewhere shes allowed

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I also do the floor... I tell my GCC 'no bite' in a stern disapproving voice and gently plunk her on the floor... Then turn my back on her for 30-60 seconds. I only do this in a safe place where no one will step on her. When offered my finger to step up , she is magically transformed into a sweet loving birdie! She is 2 now and never nips or bites!
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Tried the floor method yet?
She loves being on the floor...
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My lovebird has been VERY bitey and has drawn blood multiple times. She usually bites when I'm interrupting something she's doing such as trying to jump off the table, chew my keyboard, eating from the trashcan, being on my shoulder/trying to get on my shoulder, sleeping uncomfortably(for me) in my shirt, etc. I've tried ignoring it, which is *very* painful, and doesn't seem to stop her biting, or pushing into her beak - she simply walks backward along with my finger or bites harder, or blowing into her face, or putting her back into her cage. There's not much I can distract her with seeing as she never plays with her toys or anything else for that matter. I also heard that I could distract her by starting small training sessions every time she bites, but I dont want her to think that every time she bites, she'll get to have treats. I've tried giving her a foraging box to forage in and it kept her busy for a bit, but as soon as she's finished with it she went straight back to doing any of the following I've listed above. The one tactic I havent tried is putting something bitter on my finger but I don't think she'd be able to taste it if she only used her beak. But even if it did decrease her biting, she'd still feel bitter about me. I can really use all the help/advice I can get. Thank you!
Why dont you get another love bird? A very tame one, she will probably learn by example...just a random thought.
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Why dont you get another love bird? A very tame one, she will probably learn by example...just a random thought.
I've heard that when in pairs, lovebirds tend to bond to each other and become "wild," not wanting anything to do with people.
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I agree with the beak thing and kind of agree with the floor method too. When Loki bites I catch his beak between my thumb and second knuckle (not hard cause that would hurt, just enough so that you get his attention) and pretty much tell him No, in a stern voice. it works very well for me actually, he rarely bites, and when he does its not very hard (unless he is sleepy). As for the floor method I find that works too. Well I try not to put him on the floor because Loki, if he's in a bad mood will actually chase people and latch onto their feet, but not to deter you because I'm sure this method works for plenty of other people as well. Usually I put him in a "naughty corner" or just somewhere out of the way and below my eye level and tell him he has to stay there. When he jumps off, I put him straight back. But yeah every bird is different so I dunno what methods work on other birds, I've only ever had Lorikeets and they usually think you're laying with them when you try to discipline them =_='


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That was the same with Phoenix when I first got him (he was abused by his old owners so turned to biting), he loves the floor as well so that didn't work for me.

I had to result to telling him Don't Bite! in a very stern voice and giving his beak a rap with my knuckle, with your lovebird you would only have to use your finger (keep in mind Phoenix is a Scarlet Macaw). I didn't rap him hard enough to hurt just hard enough that he didn't like it and would let go. After he let go I would put him down somewhere and ignore him for a few minutes.
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That was the same with Phoenix when I first got him (he was abused by his old owners so turned to biting), he loves the floor as well so that didn't work for me.

I had to result to telling him Don't Bite! in a very stern voice and giving his beak a rap with my knuckle, with your lovebird you would only have to use your finger (keep in mind Phoenix is a Scarlet Macaw). I didn't rap him hard enough to hurt just hard enough that he didn't like it and would let go. After he let go I would put him down somewhere and ignore him for a few minutes.

How was he abused??
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He was was physcially beaten and locked in his cage, they never interacted with him and their kinds would take their toys and run them against the cage bars scaring him half to death, he was only 3 months old
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That's awful! I'm so sorry to hear that! I'm glad things are better now for him.




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He's doing very well now! No more biting and loves to cuddle, he's the best bird I've ever had
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I'm so happy to hear Luthien is doing better...for some reason I feel he is a sweet soul of parrot....love conquers all..
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I also use the beak and floor technique. It worked for kermit, and her bites really hurt, some bleeding and bruising. She still gets me every once in awhile, but not as much now. She also does not like going into her cage, and putting her in time out in her cage worked as well. Hope this helps.
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I'm so happy to hear Luthien is doing better...for some reason I feel he is a sweet soul of parrot....love conquers all..
Yes Phoenix is doing much better! He's settled right in and is my little baby now
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