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To use the grate.. or to not use the grate?

Im getting really tired of scraping poop off the grate... i swear Ice aims for the Bars.. none of it ever actually gets on the paper HEHE

ice regularly goes to the bottom of the cage to grab seeds/ toys she's drooped etc and she always gets poopy feet LOL

so i was wondering how many of you remove your grates in your cages?

i want to do it, but i dont know if she will be able to squeeze through the gap where the grate is missing and between the tray.( see Pics)
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I personally hate using grates and won't if I don't need to (for example, where the gap is). I don't think they help much at all and if cages are cleaned often then I can't imagine anything bad happening. If your bird makes a mess with loads of fruit, change the paper, if they poop but not a lot else then you can leave it for a day... if that makes sense. I don't think it's a necessity
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I love grates. The grates stop all my fids from going down to the bottom of the cage foraging and picking up dirty nasty stuff. There's poop and all sort of dirty things at the bottom of the cage so I just don't want them to go near the bottom of their cages. To clean the grates I just soak them in water for 10 minutes and then a quick scrub and they're all clean .

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Well I have four cages, for 3 linnies, 1 parrotlet. I don't use the grates at all, a pain in the neck to clean. Besides they can get poop on their feet from the grate as well as the paper.It's easier for me just to change the paper every other day so the bottom doesn't get that bad. I put a piece of paper towel over the big poop of the day. My birds feet stay clean. they like to play with the paper bottom sometimes tearing it in little pieces, or picking up a piece of food or toy from the bottom. I work at home so I can keep an eye on things. I've had birds for over a decade. Hope that helps, lets see what others will say!
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I have a Visions cage, to change the paper you have to take it all apart. That said, it its the easiest cage to clean, the poop wipes off the grate so easy and doesn't really stick to it.

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Use something like a large brush to scrub the grate after you have soaked it for 10 minutes. I assure you it'll be so clean afterward you can even eat your dinner off it


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After your grates are washed and dried , try rubbing a rag with a little olive or veggie oil over them... The oil helps the poop not stick and there is not enough oil to bother the birds.
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I don't worry about the whole poop on feet scenario. I worry about bacteria growth and all kinds of nasties!
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i use the grates to keep my birds out of the droppings in the pan. when i clean them i use a hot rag or scrubber and just scrub it off i clean the cages once a week unless they get really bad during the week for some reason

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i hate grates

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I use the grate to keep my linnie females from getting "nesty" on the floor of the cage. However, I did not use a grate in the same cage when I had my plet. My plet had zinc toxicity and suffered seizures so I didn't want her to fall on the grate. I used foam padding on the tray and put paper towels over that. I changed the towels frequently so did not have a problem with the plet getting into a nasty mess.

The grate is optional; why not experiment and see what happens with Icicis if you remove the grate for awhile.


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Personally I don't really like not using grates. The biggest problem I have is with my Jenday. He likes to tear it all up, toss a bunch of seed on it, and then tip over the water bowl and spill the water on top of it all. Not to mention the poop. It's a perfect enviroment for lots of bacteria to grow. And it's really not that hard to clean.

I'd only really take if off if I had a injured/disabled bird. Otherwise, I like to include it.
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Cage manufacturers put grates on cages for a purpose. If grateless is better than grated then why would those cage manufacturers waste extra money by adding grates to cages


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I don't like the grates at all. The only one of my birds that goes to the bottom of the cage is my budgie. She has a vision cage, so like another person said, the whole bottom comes off. Easy to clean. Sometimes I also just put paper on top of the grate and then cage it daily.
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I have a Visions cage, to change the paper you have to take it all apart. That said, it its the easiest cage to clean, the poop wipes off the grate so easy and doesn't really stick to it.
Can I ask which vision model you have for your linnies?
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In the beginning when I got my birds I used the grate, but my German colleagues convinced me to remove it.
I prefer a tray with natural litter where they can rund and play.
It's a more natural feeling for the birds. Look how they enjoy:



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i want to do it, but i dont know if she will be able to squeeze through the gap where the grate is missing and between the tray.( see Pics)
My first cage was quite similar to yours. To avoid a gap I just pulled the tray into the splint where the grate was before, and that worked well.
Of course I have to clean the litter daily.
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I remove the grates from all of my cages. My birds like to run around the bottom of their cage and I worry that they could get injured on the grate. I change the paper at the bottom every day so I have not had a problem with them getting much poop on their feet or feathers. Even if I used a grate I would still change the cage every day to prevent bacteria growth.

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Haven't read all of the comments but I personally love the grates, they would get poop EVERYwhere if it weren't there. And shred up the newspaper on the bottom to boot.
What I did was just wipe down the grate with a wet paper towel every day and that kept it clean.



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Can I ask which vision model you have for your linnies?
It's a L12. I love the cage except for cleaning the bottom. There isn't a pull out tray you have to unsnap the cage from the bottom and lift the whole thing off. Other than that it cleans up in a snap the poop doesn't stick to anything and it looks like the day I bought it. I got it at PetCo on sale for 26.99 I saw a smaller version in a pet store today price tag was 299.00.

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It's a L12. I love the cage except for cleaning the bottom. There isn't a pull out tray you have to unsnap the cage from the bottom and lift the whole thing off. Other than that it cleans up in a snap the poop doesn't stick to anything and it looks like the day I bought it. I got it at PetCo on sale for 26.99 I saw a smaller version in a pet store today price tag was 299.00.
Thank you, I am looking into getting another bigger one. What a great deal btw.

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