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Question Wood treatment for perch

Are crepe myrtle banches safe to use for birds? I am planing on making a play gym with the branches we trim off this fall.

What do I need to do to the wood before it is safe for my birds to use?

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yes they are safe. I have used them many times.
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yes they are safe. I have used them many times.
Thanks! Did you bake or boil the wood before allowing the birds to use it?
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If i use natural branches, I just wash them in a bleach solution (water and bleach) and let them soak in that for about 20 minutes before rinsing and drying completely.

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I have them in most of my aviaries with large birds that chew constantly. I didn't treat them with anything, it is pretty impossible when you are talking about branches that are 9 to 12 feet long. They are great as perches as the wood is fairly hard and takes a fair bit of chewing.
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For large branches, you can put a 10% bleach solution in a spray bottle and spray on, let sit, then rinse off with hose. I use an avian disinfectant called Pet Focus by Mango Pet Products. It is easier to use than bleach because you don't have to worry about ruining your clothes if you spill some on yourself.

I use this product to disinfect my wild bird feeders and bluebird houses also. I always rinse well after the product sits on the surfaces of bird feeders or houses for 20 minutes.


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A lot of people recommend cutting the perches up and putting them back together again after baking and such but I personally find that unnecessary. I think we bubble wrap birds a lot. I give mine a real good scrub down with F10 disinfectant and leave it be for a bit before washing it off (an hour or so). I always leave the bark on too, birds love it!
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I agree Daisy about the bubble wrapping. Birds like humans and other animals need to build up their immune systems and without a bit of dirt that just doesn't happen.

I have known people whose aviaries have been spotlessly clean and you could eat off the floor. Even to the extent of putting paper under the perches to catch the poop. Their birds always seem to be sick. I had a friend like that with her aviaries and she had pretty much every illness go through those aviaries. Yet people whose aviaries were filthy had extremely healthy birds with never a sign of any illness.

We have done the same thing with our children. It has now been found that their immune systems are compromised and they are always at the doctor. We are told that we need all these disinfectants, and who are telling us that, the companies making them. And the more you use them the more resistant the bugs are becoming to them. These are the super bugs and nothing will kill them. The same thing has been done with antibiotics, they have been used for everything whether they are useful for that illness or not. Now the germs have worked their way around the antibiotics and they are just not working anymore.

I believe in let everything get down and dirty. Play in mud, paddle in streams. Loved to go down to the local watercourse as a kid and catch tadpoles and bring them home and watch them turn into frogs.
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I was the same haha. I still am. Bit of mud won't kill you

With the cages, I would try to clean them daily because the poop would build up a lot otherwise and the biggest concern was always the lories/lorikeets. They could poop every 5 minutes easily, big watery poops too! Obviously cleaning was a real pain with them. It looked like they were neglected after 24 hours but they honestly weren't

The aviaries however are cleaned weekly. There is poop under the perches, poop on any toys, poop on perches, poop on the mesh, food all over the floor. You name it! But a good blast all over and it's done. I use F10 disinfectant when I clean but mostly because I'm petrified of nasties. I have some of my flock members tested, but if one goes down then they all do and obviously I'm always scared of that happening. I paved over the dirt floor in there in case of aspergillosis and such. But a good blast off with the hose is all it needs! Now the indoor aviaries I've got some plastic sheeting in there I just whip up and clean off. Simple

I no longer ever intend on keeping birds in the house. They're much, much happier outdoors. If I were to have cages again, I'd probably have a large converted shed to keep them in. I'm always scared of the easy-peasy ways for them to die indoors whereas outdoors the most dangerous thing is probably the weather. A heated shed would be nice though. I'm considering it for the future anyway, that and some nice aluminium aviaries
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I know I cause some ripples, but I never wash or scrub any branches I take from outside. I prefer them Allah natural.

BUT! You do need to know they are clean of bird pooh, molds, and chemicals.
All I recommend is a quick wash in very hot water and dish washing liquid, rinse and leave in the sun to dry.

I agree with Daisy. And feel sometimes some do tend to be over the top in how they treat their birds.
I certainly have not seen any issue with what I do, and can confirm my birds are in great condition. Despite what some of the Doom & Gloom merchants claimed way back, when i was still in a learning curve. Not that I have reached the end of that curve yet! And except I may never.


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Luckily I don't have to worry about chemicals. Especially pesticides. I just don't use them. May kill the bugs, but unfortunately it kills me too. Just a light spray of low allergy fly spray and my lips go numb, legs go to jelly and head lifts of my shoulders by about 2 feet. Same thing happens with herbicides. So they are a no no at my place. I would rather have good bugs that eat bad bugs. I also have native dung beetles which clean up everything the dogs do. Give them just a few hours and all is gone. Lady bugs do a terrific job with aphids as do many of the native birds like the Little Blue Wrens and the Bul Buls. What with the sparrows they all have a feast on spiders and other bugs. I also seem to have a great supply of Praying Mantis' living here. And in my back yard I have some resident Blue Tongue Lizards who have a field day with the slugs and snails. Mind you one of the Blueys gave the man who came to fix the hot water service a right old scare. He was sleeping under the hot water heater and with his legs all tucked in gave a great impression of being a rather large Brown Snake.

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Thanks everyone for the response, it is very helpful! I probably wont have the stand with the branches set up for a couple of weeks but when it is put together I'll post it here!
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