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Vision cage vs Play gym style cage for Green Cheek

Ok so I was set on a play gym style cage with seed catcher, removal trays and grill... Probably the one with the door that reaches top to bottom. Then I saw the vision cages and loved everything except the no grate part. I would get the two level not the one level. I'm not interested in flight cages. He's in this kind of flight cage right now that is twice as big as the one he came in:
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Ok I want to hear if you prefer one over the other and Why. Is the seed catcher worth it on either cage? I used to use the fabric seed catchers and those were a joke lol. I figure the play gym seed catchers which extends beyond the cage may work better. The vision seed catchers remind me of the fabric ones , except plastic.
I like the play gym style so he can hang out on top of the cage too and seems fairly easy to clean. Altho I worry that because most are wrought iron it may chip and rust... Compared to the vision cages of course.
Flight cages, as I said I already have one and here are seeds everywhere lol. And if the cage is open he hangs on the door and poops on the floor.. Well he does that if he sits on top of he cage and poops over the side *sigh*. Well any advice would be welcome. I'm just trying to find him a new cage, and I need a little help. Oh and about bar size I see they should have no bigger than 5/8". A lot of the cages I see are 3/4", well the ones I like. I measured and his head without counting his eyes are 7/8" wide. Oh and the play tops that have the hook on top do your birds play with the toy you'd hang there or not worth it?


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I have the 2 tier Visions Cage and Love it! The no tray part is the only bad thing about it. It cleans off in a minute. Poop doesn't stick to the grate it wipes right off. I have had other cages and the Vision is the best for keeping the mess inside. And there is plenty of room for toys.

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I have 4 vision cages and I love them. They keep the mess in and are very durable and easy to clean. They are also much bigger in person. The bottom easily comes right off to dump outside and hose off. I don't like the playtops on top of cages because it makes them to dark inside. Also side skirts on the outside of some cages don't really keep the mess in the cage. They just collect the mess and the poop when they are on top and poop over the side. Something extra to clean in my opinion and they dont come off that easily. I just put plastic place mats on the floor or plexi glass from home depot and then rinse it off outside once a week outside.

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The only thing I really dislike about Vision cages is the lack of space in the depth department -- I think they are only around 13" deep. Otherwise I like the design, mostly. They are good for budgie-size birds.

Have you considered a flight cage? They have the most space for your money and you can make your own play top with perches and other stuff!
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The only thing I really dislike about Vision cages is the lack of space in the depth department -- I think they are only around 13" deep. Otherwise I like the design, mostly. They are good for budgie-size birds.
The larger size vision cage is 17in deep (31in wide, 37in tall) and the medium is 15in deep (25in wide, 34in tall). I own both. I wouldn't put a bird bigger than a small gcc in the largest size L02 only because of their long tail.

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Oh really? I didn't know they varied in depth! I thought the depth included the seed guard in the measurement, so in reality it was a few inches shallower. 17" is not a terrible depth for a GCC, though it's probably minimum. I used to have
for a budgie and I don't think it was actually 17" deep. It was a nice cage though.

However, if space is not an issue, for only a little more $ you could have this cage which gives you a lot more space for toys, perches etc. IMHO it's a fantastic deal.


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Y'all make the vision cage sound really good. For me I would like something that is easier to keep clean overall. Flight cages are messy although I agree a better value lol. I am going to be alone with the animals for a while and a full time job so easier would be better . I really appreciate the insight on the play top seed catcher. It already adds to the width of the cage but if it makes life harder and not all that effective then it may not be worth getting. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions.
If I get the vision cage I will get the biggest one they have.. That thing was huge!! I can get for like 80 which is a great price! I noticed online the large ones had a grate.. I wonder If they discontinued it,.. Although I didn't look to see if the big ones at the store had them or not. That is a big issue as I've had both grated and non grated and the grated did keep the birds cleaner. I put Jack on the biggest one and he scurried to the top, it was pretty huge lol


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I got my Vision cage at Pet Co on clearance for the biggest one it was 26.99! I don't know what the grate is made of but poop doesn't stick to it. The not having a tray to pull out I thought would be a real pain but it isn't that bad. I have my 2 linnie's in mine and they have lots of room.

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Y'all make the vision cage sound really good. For me I would like something that is easier to keep clean overall. Flight cages are messy although I agree a better value lol. I am going to be alone with the animals for a while and a full time job so easier would be better . I really appreciate the insight on the play top seed catcher. It already adds to the width of the cage but if it makes life harder and not all that effective then it may not be worth getting. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions.
If I get the vision cage I will get the biggest one they have.. That thing was huge!! I can get for like 80 which is a great price! I noticed online the large ones had a grate.. I wonder If they discontinued it,.. Although I didn't look to see if the big ones at the store had them or not. That is a big issue as I've had both grated and non grated and the grated did keep the birds cleaner. I put Jack on the biggest one and he scurried to the top, it was pretty huge lol


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Yes they all have grates. You just lift the cage off the base. What is left is the tray and grate and you just dump it or rinse it etc. Then snap it back on.

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Yes they all have grates. You just lift the cage off the base. What is left is the tray and grate and you just dump it or rinse it etc. Then snap it back on.
That's what I thought and saw on the net. I didn't see it in the cage at the store.. Well there was a bird in there, but it did have a bit of bedding in there.. Maybe that's why. Jack might like it after all.. Gotta make sure the cages at he store has them with heir cages before I buy one. The big one is awesome!


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That's what I thought and saw on the net. I didn't see it in the cage at the store.. Well there was a bird in there, but it did have a bit of bedding in there.. Maybe that's why. Jack might like it after all.. Gotta make sure the cages at he store has them with heir cages before I buy one. The big one is awesome!


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I got mine on amazon. Their prices were the best. Stores here don't sell the big model.

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I honestly don't know, but is 15" enough depth for a GCC? For cockatiels the minimum recommended is 18" in any direction.

I actually don't find flight cages hard to clean, and if you work full time and the bird is going to be in the cage for 8+ hours/day I wouldn't go any smaller than a flight. Just my two cents.

I have seen people make really nice homemade seed/mess guards for flight cages. Also, putting newspaper over the grate or removing the grate cuts down a lot on cleaning time.

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I have a large play top with the seed guard on the outsides. The seed guard does make it take up more space but it does catch any droppings from him hanging out on the sides. It keeps some mess in the cage/on the seed catcher but if your bird is a thrower it wont help him outside the cage. Nothing from inside comes out, but Jelly stands on top of the cage and throws wood chips out as far as he can get em to go. As far as ease of cleaning, I just pull out the trays and replace paper every other day, wipe down the seed catcher and grates weekly and do a major clean every 4 weeks. I don't really need to do that much major cleaning but I like to inspect the toys and perches closely as well as move things around, I may as well clean while I am at it.
After a week my seed catcher has maybe 4 or 5 poops on the whole thing.
As for the hook with the toy hanging from it yes my boy loves to climb the hook and stand on top of the world, he chews the toys till they are just chain or leather bits hanging. If your bird likes to play with toys they will do so from that hook too.
I like my cage because it is large and if I have to leave Jellybean in it all day I wont feel guilt because he can spread his wings and flap away or do his lil tricks all over it in comfort. Its easy to clean and helps keep some of the mess down. If only I could stop him from throwing things for fun off the top. (He of course does that on all of his play gyms around the house tho.)

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That's what I thought and saw on the net. I didn't see it in the cage at the store.. Well there was a bird in there, but it did have a bit of bedding in there.. Maybe that's why. Jack might like it after all.. Gotta make sure the cages at he store has them with heir cages before I buy one. The big one is awesome!


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Just to give you an idea of what a vision looks like set up, here's a few pics. The 1st set are the M02. L02s are wider, deeper, and taller. I don't feel guilty that my plet stays in his cage while I am at work. He has a lot of space.

My L02 is curretly being used as a one story because my linnie is a baby and she is still pretty clumsy. I have included it in the second set of pics. I like that there is the flexibility of using the 2 stories as one stories.

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That was a helpful visual. I like the way you have it set up!

IMHO they are still too "shallow" for a bird larger than a budgie or p'let. I don't think I would personally use even the tall one for a GCC.
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I would recommend to buy the flight cage, because a green cheek conure is not a small bird.
i admit, I have high demands on the cage size. My two linnies have a large flight cage I find absolutely easy to clean. you can wipe the poops easily off the bars which have a special (bird safe) powder coating for that.
It's the European version of King's cages and looks like this:



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The upper floor is for living, playing, eating, sleeping and the lower floor is for flapping and exercise.
With this cage I have a good feeling when I'm not at home and my guys get no free flight in exceptional cases.
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So here is Jack's new home. It was a steal!! The cage was 150 and stand was 90, however because of our VIP discount and because we bought the large cage and stand together I only paid 140 total!! Hopefully he likes his new cage lol. Thanks everyone for your help!

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My thing about flight cages is I have a smaller one and after a couple of days there is a halo of debris around the cage. With the Vision I don't have a pesky fabric seed guard that partially blocks my view of the bird and you have to be careful cleaning and removing it or else it all goes everywhere. I would have considered the play top cage with the seed guard, which was what I wanted but the seed guard did stick out.. If they had the Playtop in stock I would have bought it, but it wasn't and this was a really good deal. I could probably have two GCC in there it's soo big lol


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So here is Jack's new home. It was a steal!! The cage was 150 and stand was 90, however because of our VIP discount and because we bought the large cage and stand together I only paid 140 total!! Hopefully he likes his new cage lol. Thanks everyone for your help!

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I hope so... I'll try and take before and after photos. You'll see the difference in cage size lol


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