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Largest single/double flight cage available

Hey! I am getting ready to completely redo my bird housing. I am looking for the largest flight cage available that would work for any of my birds (budgies/cockatiels/conure). I'm not 100% who is going where, but I want to maximize their space. I saw a large double flight that was 63"x19"x64" before it is halved, but I don't like the only vertical barring it has. Most of the flight cages I have seen seem to be this way. I'm thinking either two amazing single flight cages (I have one decent size cage already) or one single and one double. Advice? I'd like to keep it economical if possible, but if I find the right cage(s) I could always get them incrementally to keep it reasonable. Thanks in advance!
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I would have a double flight for your budgies and cockatiels (with the divider in) and a single flight for your conure

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Vertical bars don't slow the birds down any at all, my clumsiest bird is my tiel and she climbs all over her HQ flight cage!
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I have a A&E Double Flight cage and absolutely love it. I didn't use the grates in the bottom at all for awhile but when Reptar upgraded to one side at night, he learned rather quickly to squeeze out through the bottom gap to come try and sleep with me again, so thats the only thing I would warn about, lol. And I agree with the above, the vertical bars really don't slow them down at all. They're spaced pretty well for easy movement around. I would fully recommend a double flight if you find one in your budget range, and have the room, and its versatile if you want it to be one cage maybe during the day or in the future.



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Ha! Mojo is in a smallish budgie cage, with the timing he was supposed to only be there til he was out of quarantine but that got extended a month or so. Anyway, he figured that out (the space in the no grate) literally the first 20 seconds the first time I pulled the tray to clean. Smart little buggers. Anyway, I'd like to keep it economical, but the cage is more important than the cost really. Thanks!
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I think the hq flight cage is the best because i have heard of birds getting hurt in the prevue and the hq flight is bigger and more sturdy. I recently got one like new off of craigslist for $75! The normally are about $140 plus tax and shipping if applicable.

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I have a A&E Double Flight cage and absolutely love it. I didn't use the grates in the bottom at all for awhile but when Reptar upgraded to one side at night, he learned rather quickly to squeeze out through the bottom gap to come try and sleep with me again, so thats the only thing I would warn about, lol. And I agree with the above, the vertical bars really don't slow them down at all. They're spaced pretty well for easy movement around. I would fully recommend a double flight if you find one in your budget range, and have the room, and its versatile if you want it to be one cage maybe during the day or in the future.
So if I'm correct, you have Pan and Nike outdoors, Reptar in one side of this cage and the tiels in the other? Your birds are free daytime, correct? I just saw your cage on amazon so am interested in how it would work for multiple birds as a sleeping cage. Obviously Mr Bossy Pants Mojo will have his own side. Also, does it have a solid divider or wires only? Any issues with Reptar nibbling the tiels toes?
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Sorry for the long response, wanted to give decent insight because its not exactly a cheap cage to just get on a whim, especially if you'd be housing cockatiels and a green cheek next to each other. Apologies.

Correct on the set up though. Bit of a zoo, lol. It's really only for the time being though. We're almost done with an aviary thats attached outside of my room for the tiels and Reptar to have outside access, and Pan and Nike would be moved into half of that on their own. But for the double flight cage, thats the official set up for the moment. Even though its set up with the divider in right now, both sides get a surprising amount of use by the whole flock every day when they're out. I just leave both doors open every day. It's been really great as a sleeping cage at night too. My tiels are flock mates but they aren't exactly buddy buddy. The cage gives them enough room at night to each have their own set sleeping place without bugging one another. If you choose to keep the cage divided or just keeping them separate at night, the divider takes seconds to slide in or out.

The divider itself is a metal frame with horizontal bars, at least on the A&E one. Seems silly, they thought to make the divider bars horizontal but made the rest of the cage bars vertical ;p Basically looks like one of the sides of the cage otherwise, it isn't just like a solid blocked out wall or anything.

For toe nibbling, its a bit of a loaded question so sorry if my explanation is a bit long winded. It really comes down to the individual birds. Reptar was raised from weaning around my cockatiels. I never thought they would be friends, but it was pretty important to me that I could at least have them in the same room without being worried. There were never any physical fights, more personal space infringement and the typical flock mate scolding that I would see between the tiels themselves. I kept a wary eye on them all for months, waiting for something to go wrong, honestly still am. When actually locked in the cage, Reptar doesn't interact with the tiels at all, even when they're up against the divider.

So personally, I haven't had any issues with limb nibbling or even any physical interaction between the tiels and Reptar, inside or out of the cage. But its something I would definitely be careful about, I got lucky. Cockatiels are a very submissive species while conures are a lot more dominant. I don't know if you ever have them out together, but watch how they interact if they're even in the vicinity of one another. That'd be the best way to judge it, in my opinion, because its hard to give advice without knowing the birds themselves. I wouldn't really cage them with a divider wall between them unless you've seen them together.

Like Reptar is a jerk, the prankster, he likes to chase Bird around the room for fun but never once has he ever shown any sort of actual aggression towards the tiels especially in the sense that any sort of harm would come to either bird. When Pan and Nike were inside, Reptar would see where Pan was, aim (yes, I actually saw him aim), and then suddenly there'd be an explosion of feathers as they'd start brawling. So again personally, it was easy for me to see that the tiels weren't even on his radar. I would really see how Mojo is with the tiels first to get an idea on how he would react being caged next to them before going for the cage itself, and spending the money for it. I have absolutely loved having the cage, but I still want to say it just might not the best fit for every situation.

Again, super apologies for the long response. Got a bit ranting. It's honestly a cage I would really recommend to any bird owner outright, especially if you ever think about expanding your flock in the future. So really, any other questions you have about it, I would love to answer. It's the type of cage you want to be set on fully before getting it.



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Thanks, I actually appreciate the long post. All the birds have out of cage time together, obviously supervised. So far everyone is pretty copacetic, but I'm very cautious with Mojo out. He doesn't seem to care too much about anything at this point but I know that doesn't mean that won't or can't change. That's why I wondered about the divider. I'm not sure I'd want them alone with just that between them. I'm still doing lots of research though and am considering getting Mojo a separate flight and using this for the rest of the flock.
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As far as the divider goes, you can buy a sheet of clear pexiglass, (sheet acrylic) and use that instead of the divider or cover the divider with it. I would have to actually see it to know how I would do it. My tiel and green cheek have funny personalities. my Gcc is the laid back mellow one and my tiel is the pushy nut job. The tiel (funny enough) is scared of the budgies, all they want to do is play with her, (well Packer would like her to be his trophy girl), she will not let them near her. The parrotlet chases her and she can read his body language... it says, "iffa I can catch you imma gunna murderize you!!" an she is rightly terrified of him. (he has never even gotten close to her... she had his number the first time she saw him...lol) However, she is extremely jealous of my green cheek, she hates her on HER basket, on HER playstand on HER MOMMA!! She will activly seek out my green cheek and try to bully her off of the prized real estate. (I am ALWAYS within inches of these 2) She will try to bite her tail if the greenie has her back turned to her. The green cheek has NEVER gone after the tiel. She looks down on her with utter contempt as not worth the effort. The green cheek could do damage so every time she has so much as looked in the tiels direction when the tiel invades her space I have cautioned her to be nice. She understands. She looks to me to remove her from the situation and rescue her from that annoying piece of fluff...lol
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Thanks everyone! As of this point I think I am leaning toward an HQ single for Mojo and a (probably the AE) double for the tiels/budgies. We are moving from our temporary townhome back into a real house (let me tell you, going from owning a home with nice yard to renting a townhome due to a work relocation is no fun) and the birds are going to have a dedicated bird room with nothing but bird friendly stuff (including the birdtree they LOVE) and a small indoor possibly hydroponic herb/veggie garden. I'm super excited and am hoping to find one lamp to help the birds in winter as well as my plants.
Total rant on a totally different topic. But either way, I'm excited!
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