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Caique in a chinchilla cage?

Hello, this is my first post! I have been hunting, quite a while, for my future-best-friend's cage. I haven't owned a pet for several years, so I am taking it slow and doing all the research I can. The more prepared I feel, the happier we both will be!

I have decided on a Caique and even been in contact with the breeder. She posts many videos on youtube, so I feel like I am getting to know my bird-to-be already. I am very excited for all the fun antics (and, yes, even noise!) a Caique will bring into my home.

I have been reading up on cages for over three months. I hope that I know every pro and con out there, but I would feel irresponsible if I didn't ask some actual bird owners for your opinion.

Based on the breeder's youtubes, Caique's love to be on the ground, and climbing/floor space is more important than height, in their cages. I also feel that the top of the cage should be at or below eye level. I have looked at some of the cage setups shown in this forum, and love the idea of building extra play space on top of the cage. Therefore, I am strongly considering getting a sugerglider / chinchilla cage for my Caique.

Please understand: my caique will spend most of his time outside the cage. But since I must buy a cage, I want to SPOIL this bird! I look at the horizontal wires and extra shelf/floor space of these cages and I imagine the happiest little birdie ever.

So, tell me if I am mistaken, please. I promise you won't upset me, be blunt! I have this worry that there is some big, obvious con I must be missing. I don't expect any cage out there is going to be absolutely perfect, not on my budget, I just want to know what I am getting into. Like I said, if I am prepared, I will be happy!

The two contenders are
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3&pcatid=20003
Which is all metal, and has a removable wire grid at the bottom.
(catalinadee is right, this one is too small!)

http://www.critternation.net/
Which has stunning doors that open completely, and an option to stack as high as 3 connected levels. No wire grid, but I would wrap the plastic inserts in felt or pillowcases for easier cleaning.

In either cage I would replace the ramps with ladders and add perches and toys.

Also, thanks to all of you! I have been reading backposts on this forum for a few months, and you have all been very helpful. I really feel like I can make some little caique very happy!

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Personally I would be aiming for something bigger that still has a fairly smallish bar spacing. They're both nice cages, but the first I think is far too short. The second cage is good for some birds but I still think a caique needs more space to move around, even vertically. Where are you located in the world? If you're in the US, check out birdscomfort.com Aim for their medium or large cages. Bigger is better with most birds, especially cakes!

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If you're in the US, check out birdscomfort.com Aim for their medium or large cages. Bigger is better with most birds, especially cakes!
About a month back I was actually looking into a cage on that site, but I couldn't find any sort of review of the company, anywhere. It means a lot to have a recommendation, so thank you. What I realized, though was that I would want to fill that style of cage with ledges, shelves, and sundecks (and toys!) until it basically looked like a chinchilla cage.

This is where I think I am getting confused, so please forgive me asking obvious questions.

Is the cage:
a) A place for your bird to be safe, happy, and entertained during the hours when you have to be out of the house or sleeping.
b) A place for your bird to get exercise and stretch his wings.

I know the ideal answer is c) both of the above. And I know I may end up adopting the one caique who just wants a flight cage an zero toys. (In which case I would just find another use for this cage) But I really am just not grasping how a cage can be filled with toys, while also giving the bird room to fly. Maybe it's because I have seen all your bird cages in photos, but never really observed how birds move in them; the petstore clips their bird's wings.

When you look at the inches, the Bird cage http://www.birdscomfort.com/large_tw...bird_cage.html is actually less floor space than the (second) chinchilla cage. If I were to get the double stack (I would, and eventually the third) then it would be, technically, more vertical space. That space wouldn't be clear for 'flying' but that's mostly done out of cage, anyway, right? Because I would fill half of that bird cage with toys.

So. Thanks for reading all my shopping angst. Wouldn't it be great if somebody designed the perfect cage, based on breed, and just said "here ya go!"
I don't expect anyone here to be responsible for my choices, but just having the chance to talk it out with people with experience is really helpful. I really appreciate your input, because you are making sure I have thought of everything. When I know I have thought of everything, I will know that I am ready for my new friend!
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Lightbulb The Lightbulb!

I am so glad this forum exists!
It was very helpful to type out all of my reasoning on why I should put a BIRD (that lives in the SKY) into a cage meant for a RAT (that lives in the SEWER).

I am sure many of you were sighing, shaking your heads, and doing your best to hold your tongues. Meanwhile I was (again) stalking 'caique' on youtube and something a bird owner with a dometop cage said finally clicked in my brain!

I was thinking like a human, and trying to get the most economical use of square inches. My bird doesn't want economical! My bird is claustrophobic! Even if I have some totally fat and rolly ground bird, just knowing the roof is way, way up there will make him more comfortable.

Finding what I consider to be the ideal cage will still be pretty difficult. A dometop at 3 feet by 3 feet is not likely to be in my price range. (this is the closest I can find: http://www.petco.com/product/114150/...003-_-11030085 ) But, that is why I am getting the cage first, all set up with toys before I put down a deposit on a caique. If I go slowly, it won't overwhelm me, or my checkbook.

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I would LOVE that petco cage for my flock of 5 budgies if I had the room!!!
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I would LOVE that petco cage for my flock of 5 budgies if I had the room!!!
Right? I can't believe it has 1/2 inch bar spacing. But in all the reviews people say they can't even fit it through their doorways!
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We have that petco cage. It does take up a lot of space but for the money it is a great cage. Easy to clean, wheels work well to move around if needed. It is sturdy -- when we first got it I caught my kids getting inside (age 5/6) without bending/breaking anything. The seed catcher works great. Our quaker was getting food everywhere and poop on the wall when in a different cage. Moved her to this one and the next cage clean up took 10 minutes and no wall or floor scrubbing needed. Every bird we have had seems to love it. It is the place to hang out and play.
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We have that petco cage. It does take up a lot of space but for the money it is a great cage. Easy to clean, wheels work well to move around if needed. It is sturdy -- when we first got it I caught my kids getting inside (age 5/6) without bending/breaking anything. The seed catcher works great. Our quaker was getting food everywhere and poop on the wall when in a different cage. Moved her to this one and the next cage clean up took 10 minutes and no wall or floor scrubbing needed. Every bird we have had seems to love it. It is the place to hang out and play.
There is only one room in my house where that cage would fit, and it's the draftiest spot. Still, I would get the bird a heat source, anyways.

In the meantime, I've found a compromise between a rat cage and a bird cage, look!http://www.exoticnutrition.com/chinchillacage.html and look! http://www.exoticnutrition.com/costsuglca.html
This site seems to take pet safetly very seriously, as their cages are used in universities and zoos.

It's possible my favorite part of these cages is that they've posted videos on how to assemble them.

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Of the two I would go for the Congo cage. It looks taller! And yes as birds are prey animals they definitely do like to be high up

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Of the two I would go for the Congo cage. It looks taller! And yes as birds are prey animals they definitely do like to be high up
I am so excited! I have never seen a cage this tall with 1/2 inch bar spacing! and it is just as wide and deep as a flight cage, so I get the 'economical use of space' I've been craving.

I know I will have to add my own feeders and perches (and toys) to make this suitable for a bird, but I think this sugar glider cage may be pretty much perfect. I feel really good about the safety of a product used by professionals, and I have already watched the video on how to assemble it, I can totally do this!
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That's good then! And as you've said, the bird won't be in it too much anyway and will have the space of your home too

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That's good then! And as you've said, the bird won't be in it too much anyway and will have the space of your home too
Exactly! I have therefore moved on from stalking cage setup youtubes, to stalking Aviator Harness training youtubes. My breeder will even begin harness familiarization before she sends me out my little pal!

I have a feeling I have a lot of forum posts to catch up on. Thanks, again, for all your help!

Rolly-polly fat bird of joy,
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Are you getting a black capped or white bellied ? And that's excellent, more freedom!

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My birds have these as cages. They are big enough tthat my conure can play on the bottom, the stand is optional if you don't want it that tall, but I dont have a problem getting Lily off the top when she plays up there. I love the big front door and the little side doors, it is very easy to move on the stand to clean underneath. Also the tray is easy to clean and the bottom grating slides out for easy cleaning too. The only issue I have with it is that my parrotlet figured out how to open and close the little side doors. I have to keep a clothes pin on it or he can let himself out when he wants. I've even caught the little stinker closing the door when he goes back in! The clothes pin does the trick though.

I have three of them, and I cant5 recommend them enough!

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Are you getting a black capped or white bellied ? And that's excellent, more freedom!
I don't think I have a preference, actually. I don't even know if I want a boy or a girl- I have to read up more on the pro's and con's of either.
All I know is that I want a happy, hoppy, active, chirpy pal! If it's a boy I will name him Calvin, if it's a girl I'll name her Hobbes.

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My birds have these as cages. They are big enough tthat my conure can play on the bottom, the stand is optional if you don't want it that tall, but I dont have a problem getting Lily off the top when she plays up there. I love the big front door and the little side doors, it is very easy to move on the stand to clean underneath. Also the tray is easy to clean and the bottom grating slides out for easy cleaning too. The only issue I have with it is that my parrotlet figured out how to open and close the little side doors. I have to keep a clothes pin on it or he can let himself out when he wants. I've even caught the little stinker closing the door when he goes back in! The clothes pin does the trick though.

I have three of them, and I cant5 recommend them enough!
Thank you for sharing! It's been literally 36 weeks (pinterest keeps track for me) since I decided I wanted a bird. As soon as I got the no-pets exception from my landlord, in fact! I have a whole pinterest board of reasearch called Parrotlet vs. Conure vs. Caique. They are all so delightful, in such unique ways! Thank you for the tip about a clothes pin, also... Clever birds!
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