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Does anyone have this cage?

I'm wondering if this cage is any good or not. I plan on getting a large parrot like an Amazon or African Grey. I think it's a good size and I like the design. I'm just want to know if it's a good cage.


http://www.bird.com/item/a-and-e-spl...d-cage/533464/
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I've seen similar cages, not that exact one. Looks really big and complex!
This one by HQ is similar... http://www.birdscomfort.com/exotic_bird_cages.html
I think they are really cool, just expensive. (Remember, the price on the site I just sent you DOES NOT include shipping, like most sites.)




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WOW! Those are BEAUTIFUL cages! Looks like so much fun for your bird! But WOW, yes, they are expensive! Still......really neat cages!

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I see the A&E cage Jake posted includes free shipping -- a good idea, since this is probably a heavy cage. My A&E Conure Castle weights 113 POUNDS!

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Is the paint on it good quality or does it chip. It's powder coated.
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I have an A&E cage and 2 HQ flight cages, and have never had any problems with the powder coated paint chipping. Neither of my birds (GCC and Parrotlet) chew on the bars of their cages. They just use them to climb around. The paint of both brands does NOT have lead or zinc in it, so no worries there.

I imagine if you have a bird with a big beak and who likes to gnaw on the bars, it could be chipped off, but I have no experience with this.

If you're interested in the A&E brand, you could e-mail John Lance at A&E, I believe through this contact us page:
http://www.bird-supplies.net/ContactUs.htm

I had questions about my A&E cage before I ordered it and contacted them. He CALLED me to answer my questions, and we e-mailed back and forth a few times, so they will get back to you.

Whichever cage you buy, make sure you ask all your questions BEFORE you order!

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Is the paint on it good quality or does it chip. It's powder coated.
Stainless steel is probably the best to buy, but nobody does. Nobody I know at least. They are very, very expensive. If they weren't, I don't think there would really be a need for powder coated cages. So any cage you buy will be powder coated, more than likely. However, I would suggest either HQ or A&E. Those brands have a higher quality and will last longer. HQ is preferred and has great reviews.




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The cage is good quality and I have clients who have them - their only complaint is sometimes the bird won't use the whole cage but you have that problem with any cage really



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Thanks for the advice.
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No problem. Feel free to ask us anymore questions, and let us know if you order a cage! We'd love to see more pictures of it.




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it's a pretty nice cage to be honest

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Is the paint on it good quality or does it chip. It's powder coated.
All my cages are powder coated and one cage which has lasted quite sometime is now rusty and the paint is chipped. I donít think you will find a (powder coated) cage that is going to last a very, very long time, as said already, if you want a cage that will last for ages, your best bet is stainless steel though it is very expensive, but I have heard from people that have one or more that they are definitely worth the money.
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The first cage you posted looks better to me than the HQ cage because you will notice that it has two doors on it. I have been told NEVER to get one of those cages if it doesn't have doors on both sides because they are VERY difficult to clean. I do not have one like it, but it makes sense to me.

Go to the King's cages web site and check out the aluminum cages if you are looking for something that is not powder coated and still less expensive than stainless. I don't have one, but the folks I've seen post who do have them love them.


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I don't really get the difference between aluminum and stainless steel when it comes to cages. I know they are different but does it really matter?




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King's aluminum cage - 33"x25" - starts at $600.00

King's stainless cage - 32"x24" - starts at $1800.00

I'm sure there are other stainless cages from other maufacturers, but that was just easy for me to find.

Additionally, aluminum is a totally different metal than stainless steel. Aluminum is much lighter weight, and some people don't think the aluminum cages are heavy enough, but I've never actually handled one.

I've also heard that stainless steel cages can be hard to clean, but I've never had one.


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Stainless Steel is more durable long term than the aluminum and is much heavier and more costly to produce, hence the big price difference. The aluminum will last longer than a powder coated iron cage, as it's not painted and is far more resistant to rust. But like Donna said, the aluminum isn't quite as heavy duty as the stainless, so I don't know how a larger bird that chews cage bars (grey, amazon, macaw) would do. It's new enough it doesn't have as many reviews and testing done as others.

As far as cleaning, I was under the impression the stainless was easy to clean - any spots or rust can just get cleaned with a steel wool scrubber and it comes right off?



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Our birds are housed in King's Aluminum cages and I love them. They are MUCH more economical than stainless steel and beautifully constructed. They're super easy to put together with no bolts or screws. Knowing what I know about cage paint, I no longer house ANY of my birds in painted cages. Birds use their beaks to climb therefore always make beak contact with paint. Random tests have been done by owners on their cage's paint by sending a chip to LSU and lead comes back in the reports. Lead based paint is illegal for home use or toy use for children in the US. Lead is lethal to birds. As consumers and bird lovers, I encourage you to do your own research on this and demand cage manufacturers to do better by our birds.


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Well I like the aluminum cages ,but they look so small. Kings cages has an economy cage like the one I picked. Except it only has one door on it and I agree with nanay that would be hard to clean. Plus the A and E cage has a divider in it and since I'm considering getting an african grey (I don't know if this is a good idea or not) if i needed to while he is young confine him to one side so its smaller and he can learn to balance. The A and E cage also has six stanless steel cups, two for the playtop and four for the cage, but the king cages one has four, two for the playtop and two for the cage. So thats why I lean more to the A and E cage, but I'm open for suggestions. I have a long time to think about it. The earliest I would get it its next summer. Thanks for the help.
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Kristen,
What size is the largest bird you have housed in a King's aluminum cage?


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Would this be a good cage or not?
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