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Still can't decide

Okay, I still don't what cage I like the best. I know I have asked this before. I like this cage but I can't decide. What cage do you choose for a congo african grey? I am still planning for the far off date that I might bring home a parrot. I want to be ready for it.

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from what ive read about cags it might be a bit big for just one

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Well a good size is 3 foot wide by 2 foot deep by 4 foot tall. It is right around those deminsions. I really like the cages design. But I am having real trouble deciding.
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the thing it cags are prone to having phobias but if i where you id wait for donna abby or hipeopleoftheworld to comment

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thats a good idea thanks.
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Yeah greys are prone to being phobic of large cages like that and so they're not following the usual cage rule of bigger is always better. A smaller cage usually works a lot better. There are a few grey owners on here, perhaps they can show you their cages. The grey in my siggy shared a double macaw cage with the orange-winged amazon who is also in my siggy. He's now in a large enclosure and loving it. It's odd that they like smaller cages but love aviaries etc haha

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Grey's are complicated.
I think because of their intelligence?
I dont think the normal ruled apply.
I think they're amazing.
Have you seen Alex? He reads and stuff. Its awesome!
What a shame people dont keep them occupied!
I think you'll make a great grey owner Jake.
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I don't know about the cage , but can tell you , that web site is a great on to buy from... I got all 3 of my HQ flight cages there and they have great customer service!
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I had a grey and got her a smallish cage to start with because that's what I had room for at the time. She was perfectly content in it. When I upgraded her to a bigger cage she was a nervous wreck. I ended up switching her back to her old cage and she was happy again. I can't speak for all Greys but mine was happy to destroy her toys and sit back and watch the world. She wasn't super active. My cousin has her now and she tried to change her cage too and that attempt failed as well. It also could be a case of what they get used to and if they start out in a bigger cage maybe they are okay but mine likes her cozy cage. It probably measures about 3' tall and about 2' in width and 2 1/2' in length.
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Here's Scully's cage, it was like 3 foot by 2 foot by 5 foot! He lived in it for 17 years and counting just fine. Your cage looks ok in my opinion! It's just cags can get weird and like smaller cages. I suppose the cag would have to be young to get it totally used to a bigger cage. I bet it depends on the bird though. I don't know too much, because I got Scully when he was 17 and gave him back a couple of weekes ago so this is pretty much all I know..... If you do choose a grey though, you WON'T be dissapointed! Oh and the door looks like a good size, Scully would be stubborn and decide he wanted to stay out so he went off of my finger onto the cage a couple of times! Make sure to move them into the cage the exact middle of the door!
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I don't know much about cags, but that looks like CAGE HEAVEN to me!

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The issue with greys and becoming frightened in cages seems to stem from the fact that they are usually, but not always, clumsy babies and youth. If they fall, and it scares them or hurts them, then they will tend to become overly cautious. I have known of a few greys who became so terrified that they would only sit in one small part of a cage, but that is excessive and not the norm. However, it does happen, and I have personally seen a grey who was like this.

Many greys do live in 3' wide cages. This is actually the size that you will see most often recommended. Therefore, I do not believe that is a bad size for a grey, but they are also individuals, and some prefer smaller cages. I think much of it is what the individual bird becomes used to. Additionally, I would think that a tall cage would potentially cause more fears than a long cage, because I would assume that the bird would be afraid of falling a longer distance as opposed to being afraid of going from side to side, but, again, this all depends on the individual bird.

Ashlynn herself is in a cage that most people would consider too small for a grey, but she is very happy. I got this cage thinking I would get her a larger cage when she was a year old and not as clumsy, but I may just keep her in it because she is very content. I did put my senegal, another African bird with a similar personality, into a larger cage, and she never got used to it and would just sit in one spot and not play. After many months, I moved her back into her original smallish cage, and she is very playful and happy there, so I have no doubt this could happen with a grey, too.

It is often suggested to start baby greys out in smaller cages and then move them to larger cages when they are past the clumsy stage, but then you have the issue of the fact that they have learned to like the smaller cages.

Does the cage you like have a divider? If so, you could always start a baby out in one side only of the cage. I would use the side that is under the playgym on that particular cage because it is not as far to fall to the floor there. However, your baby could love the entire cage right from the start. There is just no way to tell until you try it.

If you want that cage and you start the bird out in that cage, I think it should be fine. My only issue with those types of cages is that they can be hard to clean, but, the one in the photograph has two big front doors, right? If you have a door in front of both sides then the cage should NOT be a problem to clean.

I would, however, follow the following advice from my avian vet. Do NOT trim a baby grey's nails as much as you would trim other birds' nails. Baby grey nails should be a bit uncomfortable for you when you hold the bird. This will help prevent your baby from falling in his cage and developing fears of falling. Greys are very heavy bodied birds and they fall easily and it hurts.


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Thanks for the help everyone. I think I have a little trouble picturing the size of a grey. I always think its bigger than it really is. I like play top cages but are they really any better than dome top does anyone use the top or is a playgym better. I think the hardest part of your first parrot is getting everything you need.
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OR picking one! hehe


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Yea thats another one hipeopleoftheworld

Donna, you give great advice. Yes the cage has a divider and I had the same idea about putting it in one side first. I've got a while to think about it.
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I do not have any play top cages. My cages have dome tops because I liked the extra interior space. However, I do wish Ashlynn's cage had a play top because I bring her cage from room to room. She won't stay on a play gym long. She wants to be in her cage, on her cage, or with me. This is why I just take her cage where I am. This is also why I probably won't upgrade her to a larger cage, because I couldn't do that with a larger cage, and she is, at least at this age, unable to spend much time with us unless she has her cage right there.


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While the bird is young would it be a good idea to put towels on the bottom of the cage incase it falls?
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I geuss it wouldn't hurt to do that. The mess with the poop on it though....


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Or you could put an old pillow in the bottom and cover it with a towel

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Now I am kinda interested in the Kings Aluminum Cages. Can anyone tell me about those?
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