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Why I hate bad breeders

So a supposedly 'reputable' breeder sold my grandad birds that he didn't know were ill. I know, I know. Anybody could tell just from looking at them that they were not well but my grandad really is losing his memory/mind slowly and he often does things that he wouldn't usually do, especially without my permission. Either way he knew we were very male heavy in our budgie flock and he wanted to balance it out so placed an order for some normal green female baby budgies. He didn't tell me until just before I had to go to Tenerife and then I found out he had put them straight into the aviary and as you can imagine with the psittacosis and everything I was fuming. But, I can't blame him. The man who had bred them will certainly be hearing from me as these poor little angels have been suffering from something that could have been prevented and treated extremely easily and they must have had it for some time

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I took a photo to prove to the guy what a state they were in, removed them from the aviary and treated them with ivermectin. Luckily the rest of my flock is done regularly

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I don't know how anybody can cause such unnecessary suffering and then exploit. I am beyond angry!!! I'm checking back up on them on tomorrow just to make sure they're alright because of course I'm paranoid now. The man will be around on that evening too, so I really can't wait to show him and tell him that I am most certainly not stupid
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oh no!!!!!!!! that is so bad lay into him for us! I'm angry with the breeder for you!
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They also are not babies... They have iris rings and no head bars!... Give him h*ll for us Daisy!!
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You already sent me these pictures but it still makes me sick to my stomach, to see that somebody would let their birds get to that condition. That's just horrible.




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I know they aren't babies, which aggravates me even more. He was probably trying to fob his unwanted, ill birds off to somebody gullible to take them because he simply couldn't be bothered to treat them. Probably weren't the breeding machines he wanted fingers crossed, if grandad is feeling well enough (had an operation recently) then we will both go so he can point him out to me
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I feel bad for Grandad too.. He's trying to do something nice for you... Even tho he went about it wrong... And it all backfired in his face...
I knew that you knew they weren't babies... Just stating the obvious I guess... I hope that's all the poor things have is the mites and no other nasties for you to deal with.
With those ceres so bad can you even be sure they're hens?
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Honestly it makes absolutely no difference to me whether they're guys or gals, they won't be going anywhere either way the poor things. At least they can have a nice aviary life with good food, a flock life and the opportunity to be a bird

I might just throw the 5 freedoms at the guy and see how he likes that
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Oh Daisy, what's that? Is it beak mites?
The poor things, a breeder should see that they are ill and call a vet.
You can't sell birds in this condition.
I'm sorry for what happened.
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Yes they have burrowing mites (scaly face). He probably doesn't use a vet to be honest with you
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Dis him on fb bird pages!
Stop him selling!

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That's really awful.
In Germany I would report him at the Veterinary Office.
What can you do in UK in those cases?

I think a big problem es that parakeets are too cheap in Western Europe. So breeders who produce birds in big quantities try to avoid any costs. And they sell their sick birds either to unexperienced people or they ship them to customers who order them.

My two guys are healthy, but I got two cocks, because they were not DNA-tested.
I have few money, but I would like to pay 100 Euro for a linnie DNA-tested and checked by a vet.
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that's so sad i don't even know who would refuse to have their bird treated who looks like that.
me: oh my gosh, ollie's been sitting still all day, maybe i should get her checked out
totally different mindset i think! i'm so glad they've ended up with you though

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Well he didn't show last night I've been asking around for a phone number but nobody has a clue who he was! All I can do is give him a bad rep really
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What a scum bag. He obviously knew what he was doing

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Oh definitely! I just cannot believe somebody would let it go on this long. When the beak becomes severe, it tends to drop off (or at least part of the upper mandible does usually) but I don't think theirs has gotten that severe yet. Cosmo had terrible mites too when I got him, but it wasn't around his eyes or as bad as theirs. Although it was definitely unpleasant. I don't know how anybody can do it. Buying one bottle of ivermectin could probably have protected his entire flock and it isn't exactly expensive!
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To some people animals are just product, they do not look at them as living feeling sensitive beings, they look at them as 'things'. These were defective 'things' and he just passed them off to an unsuspecting buyer the same way any dealer of defective 'things' would. He saw a older gentleman who was not so wise in the way of birds and used him as a patsy to pass off what he considered junk. I feel so sorry for the rest of his flock and breeding stock... If you can find out who he is maybe send the humane society around to check his other birds. I bet he's running a bird mill type operation with no thought or care for anyone but himself. What a piece of... Well I better not say... Family friendly forum and all!
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I would like to meet him, ask him if I can come to his to purchase a bird and see exactly what he DOES have their. Needless to say I'd be coming home and washing my clothes, showering and spraying everything with F10 afterwards though you are right though, they're not considered to be living things who deserve just as much respect as we do in his opinion. However, he clearly doesn't think much of people either!
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They look better in themselves already





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It's hard to look at them and not cringe, knowing the torture that being eaten alive bit by bit by mites! Nice job Daisy!
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