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Hello, my name is Tani,

I came here from Talk Parrotlets to find out more about Sune Conures and if they are the fit for me. I'm looking to expand my flock, so even if sun conures prove to be a little too much of a hassle, I'd love to hear new bird suggestions.

I currently own one pair of breeding parrotlets (Kiki and Roco) both pacific greens. I am waiting on the arrival of my third, a pacific blue named Zoog.

I look forwards to learning as much as I can from this forum!!
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Glad you decided to join us. What are you looking for in your search for another bird?


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Thanks!

Currently I live in an apartment, so the bird can't be too noisy... I know that sun conures tend to scream, but as far as I know they're trainable to not scream all day, all the time.

Aside from a perferred apartment bird, something that will bond well to me that has a pleasant disposition.
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Welcome!
You can try your best to train a conure not to scream, but there is always a chance they still will. And they are LOUD, really not good apartment birds!
Pionus' are amazing parrots, they are generally quieter & suitable for aparment living


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Really...? Hmmm, maybe I'll look into them. We've been warned before about our parrotlets, but it was an 'exaspirated warning' as the building manager didn't really want to bother us with it. Our next door neighbor is a bit of a crabby pants.
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Hello! Welcome! I have a Sun Conure (her name is Kiki). They are wonderful birds but they are loud and not apartment pets. Even if they don't scream, they are just overall loud. You might want to consider another quieter Conure, or another bird completely.




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My green cheek conure is much quieter than a sun conure but still way louder than my parrotlet. Maybe a GCC would work out if you got rid of Mr. or Ms. Crabbypants. Lol.
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Welcome!!!!!!!!
Bird suggestions
What about a lineolated parakeet (linnie)
If handfed they make the sweetest little birds. They are pretty quiet. Id say the loudest mine ever get is in the morning, but If I stop a the cage, say hello, and give them some fresh food and water they are instantly silent Then they are quiet for the rest of the day, minus their cute little noises, and few words They dont really enjoy cuddles when in pairs I find. But a single linnie really tends to be very cuddly. Even in pairs they still love me. Mine always want kisses and love to be on me and play with my hair and clothes. They are great little birds.

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If you have had complaints about the parrotlets, you will need to be very particular about another bird and noise. I would definitely rule out a sun conure. Sun conures are loud birds. There is no changing that.

I have a linnie. She has a contact call that is piercing, and if she is separated from the other birds, or if she hears a bird on the computer, she will contact call. She talks a lot, and the talking is not too loud. She also makes cute giggling noises. I read on another thread that you have become interested in linnies. If you are seriously considering a linnie, please visit or join the linnie forum before you get one and read as much as you can about linnie noises. They have a poll on there about linnie screaming and much information. My particular linnie does not scream as long as she is housed with another bird, but she screams often if she is not. Not all linnies are like that, and yet it is fairly common. ALMOST ALL linnies contact call when you have multiple birds in the home and you take the other birds to other rooms or when you play sound clips of other birds. You must expect this if you get a linnie. The call is not something I can hear if my linnie is at one end of my house and I am at the other end, but I do believe it is louder than a normal parrotlet sound. My linnie is very obedient and sweet, so please don't take this reply to mean that I am saying linnies are not good birds. I just know that there is a ton of great information about linnies on the linnie forum, and I would want you to be well informed before you made a choice. If you decide you want one, there are also breeders listed on that forum. Also, I do not have a creamino or lutino linnie myself, nor have I ever actually seen or handled one, but I get the impression that particular color mutation may be slightly milder in personality than the other colors. Don't take my assumption to be true. It would just be something you might ask about. It could be totally false.

I also have a green cheek conure. I am prejudiced toward her, so my information on her will be somewhat biased. She is NOT quieter than a parrotlet, and she is about as noisy as most linnies. However, she is still a quiet bird as far as birds go. Her call is slightly lower pitched than the call of a linnie. She happens to scream very little, but green cheeks can scream if they want to. She just doesn't. I would much prefer my green cheek to scream full volume right into my ear than my linnie. Both have. Both experiences are unpleasant. The linnie scream is simply higher, and, therefore, to my ears, more annoying. If you do go onto the linnie forum, read threads on there by Crystal about her noise issues with her apartment neighbors. She has had complaints from neighbors about her birds' noises. Her conures happen to be louder than her parrotlets and her linnie. I can't recommend green cheek conures enough when it comes to fun. My Shira is very entertaining. She loves to be with me, but she has a great time with herself and her toys when she cannot be with me. When she is with me, she plays hard and fast for a time, and then she crawls up into my collar and snuggles against my neck and hair for a cuddle or she crawls into my hands for a scritching session. Shira is a pineapple green cheek, so her colors are not quite as vibrant as the colors of a sun conure, yet she is still quite visually exciting. All of the pyrrhura conures would have very similar personalities and noises, so you would not be limited to green cheeks if you wanted to go with a small conure. (By the way, Crystal posts sometimes to this forum. If you look through Talk Parrots you can find her user CP and perhaps contact her right in here. She has two parrotlets, a linnie, and two green cheeks. She has had other linnies in the past.)

If noise is a serious consideration for you in your apartment, and I think it might be because you've already had complaints about the parrotlets, I also have to recommend Australian grass parakeets. They are not silent, but they are quieter than either linnies or pyrrhura conures. They can be very interactive. Many are not because people have considered them aviary birds, but hand-fed birds that are interacted with often can be very tame, and they can crave human interaction. My daughter's bourkes is one of those who does. They can also be quite beautiful in appearance. They are not cuddly the way conures are cuddly, but they have their own charm. My daughter's bourkes enjoys petting more than my son's linnie. They are more similar in actions and personalities to budgies than parrotlets are. Many people on this forum have grass parakeets, and there are threads about them on here. The most easily found grass parakeets are usually bourkes and splendids, also known as scarlet chesteds, and you will sometimes also find turquoisines.

My daughter also has a maximillian pionus. They are sweet, but I absolutely cannot recommend a pionus as an apartment bird in your particular situation. They have a call they make to great the dawn and also whenever they feel abandoned, and it is quite loud. A pionus is basically just an overgrown linnie, anyway, so if the tractable, fairly sedate personality attracts you, as long as you live in an apartment, a linnie is a better choice, although, as I have warned, I think linnies can be louder and more piercing than parrotlets.

Jenny, a moderator on Talk Parrots and the Linnie Forum, has a great deal of experience with all of these birds, too. Perhaps she can chime in, although I believe she is perhaps swamped with life responsibilities for the time being. She has posted much great information on both this forum and the Linnie Forum about all of these birds and their noise levels. It would be great if you could look up some of those posts.

Aside from the noise issue, which is paramount, do you have a preference for a certain type of personality or special interactions you would like to have with your new bird?


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Welcome to the forum! Read what ever nanay says! She's so helpful thanks nanay for that big post, I always find out more reading them
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What a great post Nanay. So helpful and informative!
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Thanks, guys.


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I have joined the linnie forum, hopefuly going to learn more about them. Thanks so much for the input nanay! They sound like something I could possibly live with. During the summer at some point I'll be moving into a bigger place so even if a linnie doesn't work out now I could aways get one later.

From what I've seen they seem to be a little louder than my parrotlets.
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Glad you found the information you want, Tani. I agree about the noises of linnies.


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I don't think my linnies have ever made much noise since I've had them. The only time they did was when they had a freak out going into the travel box to take them home. I really do recommend linnies. They're so fun! Cheech always hangs upside down
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I know this is going to sound strange, but I honestly believe linnies are quieter with companions. They did a survey on that on the linnie forum. I thought, at first, that the people who purported that were totally nuts, but now, after living with Elisa for quite some time and reading more stories about linnies, I think they do better when caged with other birds. I cage my bourkes and my linnie together, and I want to go on record as stating that I DON'T recommend that in most cases. These two just happen to get along spectacularly. I think they are an odd couple and a very rare pair. My bourkes is bolder than most bourkes and my linnie is sweeter than most linnies, and I think that is the only reason they get along. It won't be often that one family happens to acquire a very bold bourks and a very sweet linnie. I do, however, think that in a large aviary with pairs of flighted birds, pairs of bourks could be housed with pairs of linnies.

But back to linnies. I almost never say this, but I am going to say it in regard to linnies. If you need quieter birds, I would suggest getting two linnies to live in the same cage instead of one. Linnies are also unusual in that they tend to be birds who will interact with humans every bit as sweetly when they are kept in pairs as when they are kept singly.

Understand that not all linnies get on with one another. You can get two who hate each other. If possible, it would be good to select two who have already proven to get along or to allow them to choose one another.

These are just my opinions, but, for now, this is what I believe.


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I agree, Nanay! I would not consider Levi's contact call and screaming to be suitable for an apartment bird. His high pierced screaming is more annoying than any noise that Fred comes up with! I sometimes regret not getting two Linnies when I got Levi. Now I'm afraid to get another, in case I end up with two who scream....

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Sharon,
If Levi and a second linnie were not able to be housed together, I believe they would both scream a lot. However, if they were compatable, I don't think you would hear that linnie scream except when you separated them, and, seriously, why would you want to do that?

I know you don't live close to any breeders. How far are you from Ineke? I think it would almost be worth it to visit a breeder and select whomever Levi selects, but I don't know that you have that option. Most breeders probably wouldn't allow Levi around their birds for an evaluation period. Perhaps you could find someone who would allow a trial period, but, again, that would be hard because of folks desire for quarantine and disease control.

I love Elisa, but I could never handle that contact call if she had to be caged alone. I know she is totally unhappy alone.


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No breeders here, Nanay, so that "first meeting" option is not open to me. I was actually considering a female, but knowing Levi, he won't like her, and I'll have double trouble. He's actually quieted again now, so maybe this hormonal period is shorter, and not as intense. I do think he would be happier with a "buddy" though....

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