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I found this site while googling needing help with my extremely skinny Maximilion Pionus. So I joined with the hope that someone can help me figure out why this bird has never been a good eater. I've had her for 12 years, took her to a vet thinking something was wrong with her. They did blood work and everything was good except for weight. Her breast bone really shows. 'Ive researched different foods, high fat foods, fruits, vegetables, everything. She just wont eat. Help!
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Will she eat sunflower seeds? I would be letting her eat some if she is too skinny.
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What did the vet say about her condition?

Also, is she fully flighted? (The keel bone is the anchor for the flight muscles).

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Have you tried almond butter on toast? Try eating some of that in front of him (or pretend to) and see what happens? You've probably already tried all of this if you've had him 12 years though...

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Has the bird been skinny for the whole 12 years, in comparison to other same breed birds?..Does it have Air sacs in the breast?[ obviously,! or the vet would have picked it up]

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Unhappy My skinny bird!

Thank you for all of your messages. She was about 6 months old when I got her. She has always been skinny but now her breast bone really shows, worse than ever. The vet said all of her blood tests were good and he kept her for a week to try feeding her different things. After a week and $400 he said she liked wheat toast crusts, which when I got her home she wouldn't eat!? She gets Zupreem Fruit Blend. I've tried different brands and flavors but this is the only one she will eat, but leaves all of the purple and orange pieces. I also give her roasted natural peanuts w/o salt. She likes them but plays with them more than eating them. I've tried all kinds of fruit sliced, diced, peeled ... but she acts afraid of it. I try cutting fruit in different shapes and finally got her to eat apple but only if its cut in long skinny pieces. When I took her to the vet I asked him about her beak cuz she loses more than she actually eats. I didn't know if beaks ever need trimmed but he said her beak looked really good. I will try sunflower seeds again. She eats things for a short time than doesn't want it any more. I had never heard of almond butter on toast but will try that also. Her wings aren't clipped but she only flies a few feet before crash landing. I'm so afraid I'm going to lose her.
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Can you try getting harrisons high potency mash and sprinking it over her seed? Harrisons also makes something called recovery formula for anorexic birds, ailing birds. Here is a link to the recovery but the high potency mash can also be seen on their website.

http://store.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/...info/RECOVERY/

If it were me, I'd also get a good quality vitamin to add to the water due to the circumstances of her not eating well. At least it would be one way to get some vitamins in her system. Avitec has good products that dissolve well in water. Check this one out and see if it would work http://www.avitec.com/AviVita-Plus-M...ement-p/ap.htm.

Some birds also really like peanut butter toast or toast with baby food smeared on it, like squash or carrot baby food high in vitamin a.

Another suggestion is high fat things like nuts/seeds (almonds, peanuts, pecans, sun flower seeds). A lot of parrots love those.

Bird bread is another option that you can add veggies and pellets to. There are a lot of recipes online. Some people use the jiffy corn bread mix as a base because birds tend to love the taste of corn and then add things to it. You can start with seeds to peak her interest in it and then sneak in a little veggies, pellets, fruits, etc.

Once our pets get older and thin, I just give them whatever they'll eat. I am going through this with my 14 year old cat who was slightly overweight two years ago and now is pretty thin. She won't eat any high quality foods. Only the cheap foods and treats. I'm like okay, as long as she eats!

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Can you put her on a high quality South American parrot seed mix, something you'd use for Amazons or large conures? I know she is on pellets, but perhaps the best option would be to have her on a diet with higher fat all together

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My skinny bird

Thank you for all of the suggestions. I'm getting EVERYTHING that all of you have suggested. I'm very hopeful that there will be something that she will like. I am especially interested in Harrison's High Potency Mash (for anorexic birds). Sorry for the delay in my response. My daughter, home from college for Spring Break, went skiing and destroyed her knee.
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Sprouts? Nobody has said anything about fresh sprouts.
Most birds take to these without too much pushing and are super foods.
Mung Beans are classed as super food, easy to digest and full of natural vitamins, minerals and trace elements.
And I would push nuts in any form you can get her to eat them.


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Thank you! I just added sprouts to my shopping list. Should I give her all these different things at once or try them one or two at a time? I don't want to overwhelm her. Besides the pellets she is eating sun flower seeds but then doesn't eat her pellets. Also, I was told that sunflower seeds are like tequila for birds and it makes them mean. ???
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Sun Flower seeds get a bad rap. When they are a great food. it is just a matter of keeping it on a balanced level.

Sprouts: The best ones are ones you sprout yourself. Shop bought are past their prime level of goodness.
http://www.landofvos.com/articles/sprouts.html

How to present them?
Does she try to take food from your mouth or plate.
They do tend to eat when you do, so this is a good time to temp feeding any new foods.
Amounts I would not worry about as long as you do not flood her with them.


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I dismissed sprouts all together. I don't know why though! My birds were so easy to get on to eating them. Everybody enjoys them

High potency mash would be fantastic if you can get it on to fresh foods

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I don't know why I forgot sprouts! All my birds love them. I get mine from the sprout people. They have bird mixes. They get seeds, sprouts, pellets, and veggies everyday. I don't think it is too much but my seeds are a measured amount so my birds don't just eat that and nothing else. For you, her eating anything is the best option, lol. I found that when I give sprouts, my birds hardly eat any seed. They like sprouts better than seed. Let us know how it goes. Try putting the new item in a cup right by her favorite perching spot. That always works for me.

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