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Hello from Sam and Lenny :olive linnie: in Salt Lake City!

Hi everyone,

(Can you tell I'm new? I guess you can't use the smilies in the title of the post!)

I have a 4 year old olive linnie named Lenny and I love him to death, but he seems to be stuck in a terrible twos phase, which I've heard is common. I'm hoping to get some advice and moral support! About eight years ago I had a budgie for a few years before he died of a tragic accident, and he was the most charming, wonderful, happy bird I've ever known (I really got lucky with him; he was truly, truly special!). But this linnie is considerably more difficult to understand during these last few months in particular. I'd appreciate any support I can get in learning how to make him happy!

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Hi Sam,
Lenny could be hormonal, because in nature it's breeding time.
My Paulchen (blue) currently defends his territory, that means he becomes agressive when I put my hands into the aviary to change the food and water bowls.

Another point is that your linnie might be missing a partner. Solitary kept linnies often won't be happy. They want to be with their partner 24h a day. We humans can't really satisfy their needs.
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I have thought about getting him a linnie friend, but I worry that they won't get along. Lenny saw another linnie for the first time a few weeks ago (a turquoise one) and he was terrified. He jumped back and fell off his perch and cowered as close to me as he could in the corner of his travel cage (I was getting his nails trimmed). He saw another turquoise one last time I took him, and the same thing happened. (Though my sister (who has a cockatiel) babysat him for a few days while I was in California, and both birds were out at the same time and each bird flew to one of her shoulders and they didn't interact, but they seemingly peacefully coexisted on either shoulder). I also worry that it will be a lot more care than I can handle, unless the second bird will take some of the pressure off of me to give Lenny attention and companionship. Truthfully, I got Lenny not knowing how difficult it would be to keep him happy, but I am committed to doing whatever is best for him! I just don't want to add more care requirements or stress him out by getting a second bird, especially if they don't get along. Then I'll really have twice the work!
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Hi Sam,
if it is absolutely no option for you trying to socialize him to another linnie you could try to work with him.
Can you describe the behavior which is difficult for you?
Whatever it is it will be important that you ignore the bad behavior and reinforce the good.
You could also begin clicker training with him.
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Yes linnies are definitely more difficult then budgies! I had a linnie that didnt get along well with any birds but one budgie. She ended up bonding to another female linnie quite easily even tho it seemed she hated her at first. I personally think linnies are more needy and temperamental without another linnie.

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Hello and welcome to the forum! Would love to see some photos of Lenny

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Welcome to the forum. I have two linnies and they are almost constantly physically touching every time I look at them. That is difficult for a human to simulate unless you are home all day. Recently my one Linnie has been in the nest box all day and the male has become so needy and clingy. It drove me insane...I think two linnies are less work. After an initial period, most linnies bond, but I don't know since yours is older. Hope you can find a solution.

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Hiya Sam! Welcome! So glad to have you with us. We would love pictures!




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Here are some pictures!

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He found a friend!

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Him on his play stand

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Upside down eating some millet!
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After a mist bath when he was less than a year old

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He has just been veeerrrrrrry temperamental. It's like he's constantly angry at me, yet wants to be with me. He has always loved being talked to. He will get really quiet, slowly walk towards your voice, get really close, and listen contently with twinkly eyes. But these days he will suddenly screech and charge and try to bite me after sitting contently for a little while. He will turn right around from being sweet to being angry to wanting attention again. Very erratic. Maybe the mating season is causing his behavior, but I've had him for about four years (since he was a baby) and this hasn't happened before. He has been acting this way for a couple of months or more. I think I should clip his wings because he has been very bratty since they grew all the way out a few months ago, too. But he has been fully flighted before, too. He has also grown to be much more hand-shy, but again, maybe wing clipping will help that. What really freaks me out is his unpredictable and unprecedented temper! One day when my boyfriend came home with a friend, which isn't too out of the ordinary, Lenny immediately started screeching and charging (in his cage) at them both before either of them could even say hello to him. They were only there for a few minutes and Lenny continued screeching and angrily charging the whole time. And then, when I came him with my boyfriend and my mom a couple weeks later, he did the same thing. He has never done that in the past when we have guests over. He was also calmly sitting on his cage a few months ago and he SO suddenly screeched and charged at a houseplant I have. This is very unusual behavior for him and I don't know what could possibly be causing it. And, he used to be so sweet and gentle and sometimes I can't help but take it personally, even though I know I shouldn't.
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He sounds like a linnie. From my experience with bird types, linnies were the most unpredictable.

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Ohhh he's adorable! Thanks for sharing the photos

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My too have mood swings, but they are not so wild. More like a period of being aloof, a period of being super cuddly, etc. the past couple of months they were wired because of breeding season and my male was very territorial! But I would stand still and talk to him quietly and he would calm down. A while back he did get a little more flighty and was careening around the house too quickly to be safe, so I clipped only ONE feather on each wing. That helped slow him down, but really did not limit his flying ability. Then he molted, so it could've been stress causing his change in behavior.

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My too have mood swings, but they are not so wild. More like a period of being aloof, a period of being super cuddly, etc. the past couple of months they were wired because of breeding season and my male was very territorial! But I would stand still and talk to him quietly and he would calm down. A while back he did get a little more flighty and was careening around the house too quickly to be safe, so I clipped only ONE feather on each wing. That helped slow him down, but really did not limit his flying ability. Then he molted, so it could've been stress causing his change in behavior.
Very true, I found linnies to be very heavy bodied, so they do best with 1-2 flight feathers clipped on each side, but definitely no more than 3 otherwise they hit the ground like a rock and it is very dangerous.

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He has just been veeerrrrrrry temperamental. It's like he's constantly angry at me, yet wants to be with me. He has always loved being talked to. He will get really quiet, slowly walk towards your voice, get really close, and listen contently with twinkly eyes. But these days he will suddenly screech and charge and try to bite me after sitting contently for a little while. He will turn right around from being sweet to being angry to wanting attention again. Very erratic. Maybe the mating season is causing his behavior, but I've had him for about four years (since he was a baby) and this hasn't happened before. He has been acting this way for a couple of months or more. I think I should clip his wings because he has been very bratty since they grew all the way out a few months ago, too. But he has been fully flighted before, too. He has also grown to be much more hand-shy, but again, maybe wing clipping will help that. What really freaks me out is his unpredictable and unprecedented temper! One day when my boyfriend came home with a friend, which isn't too out of the ordinary, Lenny immediately started screeching and charging (in his cage) at themh both before either of them could even say hello to him. They were only there for a few minutes and Lenny continued screeching and angrily charging the whole time. And then, when I came him with my boyfriend and my mom a couple weeks later, he did the same thing. He has never done that in the past when we have guests over. He was also calmly sitting on his cage a few months ago and he SO suddenly screeched and charged at a houseplant I have. This is very unusual behavior for him and I don't know what could possibly be causing it. And, he used to be so sweet and gentle and sometimes I can't help but take it personally, even though I know I shouldn't.
I found a web site that might be helpful for you. Its www.BarredParakeets.com. it answers a lot of questions about linnies and helped me a lot and I hope it helps you too! Lenny is adorable!!


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Lenny is so cute and adorable.

I'm sorry to hear that he is currently stressful for you.
If you clip his wings please do like 4thebirds and Anna suggested, don't clip all primaries.
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Hi again everyone,

Thanks so much for all of your support! At the suggestion of my groomer I started mixing hemp seed into Lenny's usual seed mix to calm him down, and it seems to have made a big difference. Either that or his hormones are finally calming down after this breeding season. For the last few days he has been much sweeter and I have been working on training him to fly to me, and it's going so well! He's been pretty snuggly and attached to me, and he is even starting to choose my company over that of his mirror buddy that he would never resist before (I have a huge mirror that sits on my dresser in my bedroom and whenever he makes it into that room, he goes straight to it and stays there for hours if I don't take him away). I think I will still clip one or MAYBE two feathers on his wings, but his progress is encouraging! I am really doing it more for safety than control at this point. If he starts to act up, I just give him a firm 'no' and turn my back on him for a while, and then return after a couple minutes to start over. I feel confident that we can learn to speak the same language better. He's such a smart little guy!
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I found a web site that might be helpful for you. Its www.BarredParakeets.com. it answers a lot of questions about linnies and helped me a lot and I hope it helps you too! Lenny is adorable!!
Thank you! This was really helpful! I have never encountered that website in all my searching about linnies.
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