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Unhappy Disappointed with New Sun

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I'm new here and acquired a Sun Conure ( bird species I've wanted for a long time) we got her at an older age of three years old. I'm having difficulties with her. Within two to three weeks of being home she suddenly plucked out her feathers, we brought her to the vet and physically she's in good health but seems to have some emotional/ mental type issues such as anxiety or whatever so now I will be trying Avicalm supplement.

Another factor in her plucking is that she prefers my husband to me and he's not a bird person at all! I spend minimum time with her because she's just not that interested in spending time with me.

This leads me to feel disappointed and I'm sorry to say I regret getting an older bird and wish I would have gotten a baby instead. I don't know her history but this bird seems to have come with some baggage that is going to take time to remedy, if I ever can. Not only that, she may never like me.

Any advice? Thanks!
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here is my advice! I hate to say this and I am sure most people won't agree but here it goes...

A bird is a very big responsibility and can live longer then most other species... If you didn't do any research this would lead me to believe you are not ready for a bird like this. Birds of older ages can be even more work because of their social behaviour it is never good for a bird to go from place to place. So here is my suggestion, if for any reason you will not keep and maintain this bird for the next 30 years you need to do what is right and either give it back or find a loving home that will. The reason I hate to say this is because people will say try and find ways, but here is what I see and believe. Birds can come around to people yes, you will have bad days and good days however if your feeling this way now and spending less and less time the bird, you will end up spending little to no attention to the bird. Birds are social creatures and as such need social stimulation. It always takes time for a new bird to settle and I am not saying that this bird wouldn't. I just feel based off the post you may not be fit/ready to deal with this... Please do not take this as bashing you, because clearly you are asking for help, which for me has always shown you care and you have taken the bird to a vet so +++ in my opinion. I am just worried for the bird... You're doing everything you can and I am sure.

In the event you can care for the Bird then I suggest watching some tricks and training videos on YouTube or use books and online articles. I haven't really had to deal with your situation so I don't have a lot of advice in that department. The oldest mine was, was about a 1 1/2.. I babysit for a friend whose bird is much older and has attitude problems and we have worked those out.

Good Luck keep us updated I hope you choose to want the bird... I know it's hard

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Well here's the thing, I would LOVE to spend time with the bird and I have tried and continue to try but like I had written above the bird prefers my husband and my husband is not a bird person who wants to spend much time with her, if at all. Is it possible she could have a gender preference?

I plan on keeping the bird and will try everything I can to help this situation. Thanks for your reply!
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Well here's the thing, I would LOVE to spend time with the bird and I have tried and continue to try but like I had written above the bird prefers my husband and my husband is not a bird person who wants to spend much time with her, if at all. Is it possible she could have a gender preference?

I plan on keeping the bird and will try everything I can to help this situation. Thanks for your reply!

Some birds are odd and will prefer one person over another its up to you to spend the time and effort to reach this bird mentally to get it to respond to you.

Time is important spending lots of time with the bird one on one, sit and read to the bird using high excited tones of voice and see if the bird responds. If it likes the way you talk to it when reading you then keep on reading and offer some millet or food treats it likes and get the bird to respond to your actions and sounds.

The bird won't respond overnight, or maybe not even for a few weeks or a month. It takes a long time to reach a bird that has been housed elsewhere and has lived in situations that have made it the way it is today.

As Nikki colbon2 has said in her post above.... if you can't commit to the bird and think this isn't going to work for you then get the bird into a bird sanctuary or shelter and find it a home and someone who can spend their time getting to this birds problems.

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Thanks for the suggestion about bringing her to an animal shelter, I will bringing her there this morning but unfortunately they only hold birds for 48 hrs. We don't have sanctuaries. I did want to keep her and work with her but if you this this might be a better option for her then I will do that.
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Sorry I don't have many suggestions, but I just wanted to say, I wouldn't have regrets about getting an adult; all of the things that you are experiencing now could just as easily have happened later down the line if you got the bird as a baby. You can do everything "right" and still end up with a bird that plucks, screams, prefers another person, etc. Babies are never that way at first; the issues only start happening once hormones hit. Because they are wild animals, and cannot be "netuered," nor are they domesticated or well-suited to a life in our homes. One thing you can do is try your best to win her trust and spend time with her when your husband (the "chosen one") is not around. have you discovered what her favorite treats are? If so, give one to her every time you pass her cage. In time you can build a friendship with her, though you will have to accept that she will prefer to be with him when he is around.

I wish you the best of luck and will let those with more conure experience weigh in with more advice.
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Please don't feel that your bird is like this because she's three years old. There are so many factors that can cause a bird to pluck. Your vet says she is healthy, did they do a CBC on her? Disease testing? Because you can take a look at a seemingly healthy bird and say yeah they're fine when really they're carrying or concealing an illness. Diet can also be a major factor. Does she have a lot of enrichment?

How long have you had her for? Birds can take a very short period of time to settle or a very long time. If you don't know about her background she could have had many other homes, leading to an anxiety of being moved and not having the chance to truly settle down somewhere

Birds can, do and will pick their favoured person but there's nothing to say that you can't build a happy and trusting relationship with her. You need to get her settled for some time and allow her to adjust to her new environment. Pass her treats if she will take them from you and sit near the cage for as long as you can daily so she can view you better and see you're not a threat. Once you're confident that she's showing interest in you you should try trick training her. Now this may sound silly, but trick training can be essential to building a bond with a bird that has little interest in you. She will associate you with fun and treats. Simple tasks like step up, go down, recall training can be very beneficial anyway but trying to teach a new trick can give both of you a sense of accomplishment. If you want to learn more about training I recommend checking out birdtricks.com/blog They have plenty of articles on training, diet, housing etc. that are down to earth and easy to understand. I consider myself having quite a lot of experience but I am always referring to their posts and plenty of books because we are always learning

Please don't feel disheartened. I know she may not be what you initially wanted in a bird but I'm sure with time she will soon come around!

Does she have any other issues like screaming? I know suns with behavioural issues tend to scream quite a lot
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I would look for a sun conure forum to join, find out if there are any members who might be in your area. Ask members to help you with the bird and if nothing works for you and the bird then you can ask the members to help you look for a proper shelter or someone who would be able to take the bird.





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I was happy to see that you had said you wanted to work with her. Then I kept reading about the finding a shelter. I am sorry. It's a tough decision, but if you have massive doubts it's hard for you to overcome.

My birds are not perfect and bite sometimes or have attitude changes. It happens to them all. I recently got a Linnie and she decided to become really wild and I am currently working on her to try and step up and not rip my finger to shreds which she is doing!!!

I can tell you more and give you ideas if you decide to work through everything.
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I have had Digby for close to two years now (wow... can't believe it's been that long!) and he plucks, he has emotional issues still from his first home. He will be 5 this June. I just moved in with my fiance this past June, and despite all of the progress I made with him, he completely fell in love with Eddy. He will always just prefer Eddy, he will do things with Eddy he never does with me, and he has bitten me several times when I've been in the way. It's a tough thing, but I still love him and I know I made a commitment. Birds can take a very long time to settle, too, I've heard of it taking folks years to get their bird warmed up to life with them.

Know that most all the baby birds will find homes, but older ones will struggle to, especially ones who pluck and similar issues. Three years is not that old either. I say keep trying. Patience



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Ok Jumping in.
I will admit to not reading all the posts, so please forgive me if I get this wrong or offend anybody.
Good on you for deciding you want to keep her.
Moving Suns around is not good. And finding them great owners, not dreamers is a very hard thing to do.

Taking on a Sun Conure can be a challenge to a lot of people.
Taking on an older Sun, if you are not used to dealing with birds is another challenge.
Plucking to me would indicate it is not happy with the change in homes and people.
I did not see anything about screaming, and that is a positive, at least.
You do need to interact with this bird as much as possible. Time and patience are keys to forming a solid bond.
Your attitude towards this bird is crucial. She needs to learn she can trust you and that you are there to help and look after her needs and love.
Do some reading on Positive Reinforcement Training, this will help.
Also look up Barbara Heidenreich, she is very good with these sort of situations.


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Plucking can happen because of reasons which are easy to change.
What is the humidity in your bird room?
What is the bird's cage size? Does he like the place where his cage stands?
Have you already found out what kind of toys he likes?

And finally I read in a German forum recently:
South American parrots need a partner like the air to breathe.
That's the first question our Avian vets will ask if you visit them because of a plucking parrot: Does the bird have a partner of his species?
Sidhe, in your case I would do everything to find out why your parrot plucks instead of being disappointed.
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