We've had them in at the shop I work at now and we used to breed them in the shop I worked at in Orlando. They're so cute as chicks! They're covered in black down, not white like most birds. So you can't tell male from female until they're a good deal older and the pins start to break open! They're very docile, with the females being a little more moody and demanding. They are actually good talkers and very sweet! I've never in the 6 years of working in pet shops, with breeders and grooming, met a nasty or vicious Eclectus! :lovehearts: